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    How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Hi, I'm doing 3u math, 1u SOR, ancient history, physics and english.

    I was wondering if it's possible to get a 90+ atar with standard?

    When people tell me that they know people doing standard english and getting a 90+ atar, their other subjects were usually 4u math, chem, etc. All the other high scaling subjects to make up for it.

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    youll be ok

    i did standard and was coming about 50/100 and still got a good uai

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    Where did my comment go?

    Wot?

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    w0t did you post bro

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Really badly.

    If I got the same mark in advanced I would've gotten 95+.

    If I got that same raw mark I would've gotten 96+.

    But yeah, I got above 90 (okay, I guess) and I did standard.
    But I also did Extension 1 & 2 Maths, Chemistry, and Biology.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    And yeah. Everyone that does well in standard does 4u ! D: I'm doomed!

    My school rank is 100-110 btw

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Can someone give me an estimate of how well I would have to do in my other subjects to make up for standard English?

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    just get like 80+ in standard and ace the rest of ur subs, and your atar should be good

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    What if I'm aiming for an ATAR of 91.00?

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Illest View Post
    What if I'm aiming for an ATAR of 91.00?
    really you should have no problem, Standard is more easily marked, so as long as you can keep 90+ in it, and smash the externals you could get alot higher than 91 since your doing 4 unit.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdzabakly View Post
    really you should have no problem, Standard is more easily marked, so as long as you can keep 90+ in it, and smash the externals you could get alot higher than 91 since your doing 4 unit.
    I'm not doing 4u :\

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Advanced aligns much better than Standard, but you should be fine as long as you get high marks.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    When I was doing the HSC, a student managed atar 97, and that was with a subject combo similar to yours, except without the 3 unit maths. They were an all-rounder, also.

    So, get 90+ in all your subjects and you're set. =]
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdzabakly View Post
    really you should have no problem, Standard is more easily marked, so as long as you can keep 90+ in it, and smash the externals you could get alot higher than 91 since your doing 4 unit.
    Uh.....no......If so...we should have way more than 60 of band 6 standard english students per year.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by khorne View Post
    im coming to usyd to do my nude photography assignment
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    I'll be there with bells on (but not on because I'll be naked).

    Quote Originally Posted by Illest View Post
    And yeah. Everyone that does well in standard does 4u ! D: I'm doomed!

    My school rank is 100-110 btw
    Yeah, you're fucked. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by zeebobDD View Post
    just get like 80+ in standard and ace the rest of ur subs, and your atar should be good
    ~80 in standard is equivalent to ~80 ATAR (maybe less). There is a big gap in scaling between marks in Standard.

    e.g. My external scaled to 76.2 (same mark in advanced scaled to ~76.2), my internal scaled to ~59 (same mark in adv scaled to ~64.3).

    My external was 86 and my internal was 80. That's not that much of a difference, and it gets fucked up.

    Quote Originally Posted by utopianradical View Post
    Uh.....no......If so...we should have way more than 60 of band 6 standard english students per year.
    That has to do with aligning..

    But seriously, I think they're not marked that differently, considering I got 10/15 for my essay on the The Crucible (marked with advanced papers) and it was my worst essay (and belonging to place did not fit at all), and I got ~17 each in my standard essays.

    So like, standard is probs only marked a small fraction easier.
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Shouldnt be a problem - sure standard has terrible aligning but you can definitely get over 90 with the subject.
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    What rank in school would I need for English to avoid being scaled down? :S

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    How is the scaling for Standard English different from ESL?

    I heard it doesnt affect your atar as much as Standard does :P
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Illest View Post
    What rank in school would I need for English to avoid being scaled down? :S
    Its very hard to say, just do your best and try not to worry about it too much - these things are out of your control.
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    How is the scaling for Standard English different from ESL?

    I heard it doesnt affect your atar as much as Standard does :P
    Quote Originally Posted by enoilgam View Post
    Its very hard to say, just do your best and try not to worry about it too much - these things are out of your control.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Illest View Post
    What rank in school would I need for English to avoid being scaled down? :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by raufmalik View Post
    How is the scaling for Standard English different from ESL?

    I heard it doesnt affect your atar as much as Standard does :P
    ESL scales better.

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    fk the advanced cunts

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    put it this way, my school dodgily put me up into advanced after the first assessment in hsc cos they were worried it would kill my atar. my physics teacher told me that doing advanced would easily give me an extra 5 points/percent/rank to my atar
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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    Just get high marks for standard. I know someone who did standard eng and got 99.something atar

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    Re: How badly will doing standard English affect my ATAR? :(

    I'm doing standard english, ancient history, physics, 3U maths and extension history, my atar estimate the school gave me was 97.3, give or take 3

    I don't even do chem or 4 unit maths so don't worry, the only reason why getting a decent mark is because i'm rank one, around the top 3-5 for standard English in your school to perform well in your HSC.
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