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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by annieeeex View Post
    its actually pretty biased. my teacher told me some HSC markers often deduct marks for those people who write in huge paragraphs because markers usually read really quickly and give more marks to people who write in shorter paragraphs (short answer questions) cus they see things clearer.
    Shorter paragraphs generally result in better structure. I'd say that's more of a reason that just because it's hard to read.

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by Absolutezero View Post
    Shorter paragraphs generally result in better structure. I'd say that's more of a reason that just because it's hard to read.
    I agree. However i tend to have somewhat larger writing...so i break mine up more

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    There's a little gambling involved with English essays in exams. Since gambling is bad, so is HSC English.

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    HSC english is bad because you are forced to deconstruct every text you ever loved. It's like slowly pulling off the skin of a loved one to see their insides.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrrah View Post
    HSC english is bad because you are forced to deconstruct every text you ever loved. It's like slowly pulling off the skin of a loved one to see their insides.
    Not if your teacher picks texts you never liked in the first place :P

    But it's a trap to fall into when picking your related texts.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by danal353 View Post
    I think so many people dislike it due to a combination of reasons:

    1) english is compulsary (and adv english is compulsary at some schools) so people who didn't like english in the first place have to do it.
    2) it's pretty subjective so there can be discrepancies in the marking, people feel like they've been treated unfairly etc.
    3) It is virtually impossible to argue your mark and gain extra marks
    4) unlike ext english - there are so many modules and essays to balance

    I'm glad it's over, adv english has caused me some pain in the past year - but i'll probably end up missing it...
    Sounds about right.

    English is a pretty lame subject and few people are actually interested in analysing a few texts.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Because some people have the attitude that analysing texts doesn't help you in life. Also, there's really no 'right' answer like maths.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    The same reasons why many hate maths and science and then drop it after Yr 10
    + The fact that you can't give it up.

    For me personally: It'll drag down my ATAR by 5 points.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    I read this forum and notice a lack in understanding.

    Firstly, marks in English are determined from the following:
    - understanding of the text (this can be YOUR OWN understanding)
    - ability to write
    - understanding of the concept

    Secondly, the subject is based on interpretation, not "bullshit".

    I really don't like it when people bag English. It is a good subject if taught and approached correctly.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    I think I am in the minority that I actually enjoyed aspects of HSC English. Parts of the syllabus I'm not as keen on, and sometimes the texts I had to do. But it's not often people actually enjoy analysing poetry and the like.

    I actually look through the prescribed list and think I would have really enjoyed studying some of the other options.

    I am with the people stating they don't like people bagging on English. If it was easy, everyone could do well. There is a skill in the ability to write and synthesise understanding.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Because the majority of the people on this forum are Asian - including me.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMueller View Post
    I read this forum and notice a lack in understanding.

    Firstly, marks in English are determined from the following:
    - understanding of the text (this can be YOUR OWN understanding)
    - ability to write
    - understanding of the concept

    Secondly, the subject is based on interpretation, not "bullshit".

    I really don't like it when people bag English. It is a good subject if taught and approached correctly.
    not when teachers don't like "your own" understanding and give you a shit mark
    and it is bullshit, you read something and you essentially have to infer some shit about it that isn't there
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaz1 View Post
    not when teachers don't like "your own" understanding and give you a shit mark
    and it is bullshit, you read something and you essentially have to infer some shit about it that isn't there
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verify View Post
    Because the majority of the people on this forum are Asian - including me.
    I'm pretty sure anyone of any background, including those from a background where English was the first and only language taught at home and in extended family won't absolutely love english lit or HSC English

    not everyone wants to do something they're made to do :P
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riot09 View Post
    is it really that bad,then why is it compulsary
    Reason being that when it wasn't compulsory there were a lot of students without any English communication skills entering into some very demanding careers, i.e. going into study medicine without being able to clearly communicate, going to commerce without any report writing skills etc etc. I can see why people don't like the STRUCTURE of the course but as a subject it should definitely be compulsory...

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    OH MY GOD! Do not get me started. I got a high B (16/20) for an essay and then I sent the same essay to my teacher to have it improved and she said it was a high C response. LIKE WHAT THE HELL? I DIDN'T CHANGE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I mean English isn't a bad subject but the HSC English syllabus isn't very good at all.
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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    It's because it's the only subject that's compulsory and every year math/science nerds neglect it and their ATAR's sink because of it whilst people that just don't complain and play the game laugh at them whilst they go "omg english is so bull, it's not even useful in real life they should teach people how to spell and stuff"

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    I think a revised version more applicable to daily life should be compulsory, but I don't think it should be compulsory for your ATAR because it needlessly drags down the ATARs of people. Like for example someone who puts lots of work into english, and gets band 6 for every other subject, even if they achieve a perfectly fine band 5 in english it still drags them down significantly in many cases.

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    Quote Originally Posted by moocow920 View Post
    I think a revised version more applicable to daily life should be compulsory, but I don't think it should be compulsory for your ATAR because it needlessly drags down the ATARs of people. Like for example someone who puts lots of work into english, and gets band 6 for every other subject, even if they achieve a perfectly fine band 5 in english it still drags them down significantly in many cases.
    I agree. It should remain compulsory, but not added to the ATAR.

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    Re: why do so many people hate hsc english?

    because it's completely subjective and a load of bullshit. half of us hate english but we're forced to do it which makes us hate it even more. fucking wish it wasn't compulsory

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