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    Exclamation Scaling ??

    How good are the following subjects in regards to scaling?

    -Biology
    -Modern History
    -General/Adv Maths
    -Adv English
    -Economics
    -Legal Studies
    -Extension History
    -Extension 1 English

    Thank you!!

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    Re: Scaling ??

    Biology - not good unless you do really well
    Modern History- good
    General Maths- not good unless you do well
    Advanced Eng- good
    Economics- very good
    Legal studies- not good unless you do well
    Extension history- good
    Ext 1 english- good
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    Re: Scaling ??

    http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar...17-TableA3.pdf

    This is for 2017's HSC but these numbers are usually stable (note that the new HSC might possibly change things)

    Look at the scaled mean (out of 50). Generally speaking - the higher the scaled mean, the higher the scaling for the subject. Note that scaling isn't uniform across all percentiles - if you achieve in the 90th percentile you won't get scaled down as much as someone in the 25th percentile (you'll usually always get scaled down, except for a few subjects).

    26.2 / Biology
    25.9 / Modern History
    21.7 / Mathematics General 2
    31.2 / Mathematics (2U)
    31.5 / English Advanced
    32.1 / Economics
    25.7 / Legal Studies
    33.7 / History Extension
    35.9 / English Ext. 1

    For comparison, Senior Science is 18.5, Chemistry is 31.4, and Mathematics Ext. 2 is 43.2.

    I'd say anything that's 30 or above is "good" and anything in the low 20's might be considered "bad". But tbh I wouldn't worry about anything on that list except for genny maths.
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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by fan96 View Post
    http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar...17-TableA3.pdf

    This is for 2017's HSC but these numbers are usually stable (note that the new HSC might possibly change things)

    Look at the scaled mean (out of 50). Generally speaking - the higher the scaled mean, the higher the scaling for the subject. Note that scaling isn't uniform across all percentiles - if you achieve in the 90th percentile you won't get scaled down as much as someone in the 25th percentile (you'll usually always get scaled down, except for a few subjects).

    26.2 / Biology
    25.9 / Modern History
    21.7 / Mathematics General 2
    31.2 / Mathematics (2U)
    31.5 / English Advanced
    32.1 / Economics
    25.7 / Legal Studies
    33.7 / History Extension
    35.9 / English Ext. 1

    For comparison, Senior Science is 18.5, Chemistry is 31.4, and Mathematics Ext. 2 is 43.2.

    I'd say anything that's 30 or above is "good" and anything in the low 20's might be considered "bad". But tbh I wouldn't worry about anything on that list except for genny maths.
    Thank you very much ! This really helped

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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by confusedandamused View Post
    Biology - not good unless you do really well
    Modern History- good
    General Maths- not good unless you do well
    Advanced Eng- good
    Economics- very good
    Legal studies- not good unless you do well
    Extension history- good
    Ext 1 english- good
    Thank you ! 🙏🏻

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    Re: Scaling ??

    This link is quite outdated, but should still provide an overview of scaling and other statistics. It's good to look at if you're curious.

    http://community.boredofstudies.org/...okup-table.pdf

    Highlighting: Green – scaled exceptionally well; Yellow – scaled well; No highlighting – average scaling; Purple – scaled poorly; Red – scaled very poorly
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    Re: Scaling ??

    Thankyou so much !
    Quote Originally Posted by tklawl View Post
    This link is quite outdated, but should still provide an overview of scaling and other statistics. It's good to look at if you're curious.

    http://community.boredofstudies.org/...okup-table.pdf

    Highlighting: Green – scaled exceptionally well; Yellow – scaled well; No highlighting – average scaling; Purple – scaled poorly; Red – scaled very poorly

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    Re: Scaling ??

    Dw about scaling just try do your best in the exam
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    Re: Scaling ??

    with pikachu^ everyone cares about scaling but if you do well in all your exams, you're gonna get a good result. I know many who's subjects were all in the scaled mean mark of 20's yet still received an atar of 96+..
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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by pikachu975 View Post
    Dw about scaling just try do your best in the exam
    True.....

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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by sabbabbby View Post
    with pikachu^ everyone cares about scaling but if you do well in all your exams, you're gonna get a good result. I know many who's subjects were all in the scaled mean mark of 20's yet still received an atar of 96+..
    Good point, but I would still get scaled down a lot even if I do well ?

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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Munti View Post
    Good point, but I would still get scaled down a lot even if I do well ?
    Only for subjects with genuinely bad scaling do you get dragged down significantly even if you do well. Any scaled mean in the mid-20s is fine.
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    Re: Scaling ??

    Quote Originally Posted by fan96 View Post
    Only for subjects with genuinely bad scaling do you get dragged down significantly even if you do well. Any scaled mean in the mid-20s is fine.
    Thanks !!

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