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    Advanced vs Standard English

    Okay, hello, so I'm back and still bent up on English selection. The main reason why the decision is hard, is because even though I am fully capable of advanced and have consistently ranked within the top 10 for English so far, I find no joy in putting work into it - unlike maths, sciences and basically all the other subjects I do. That's why I am considering standard even though everyone around me says to pick advanced. I do not want to regret this choice and really want to understand to the full extent what the two are like and whether or not picking standard would drop my atar significantly. Also is the workload in Advanced to much to handle with all my other choices (3U Maths, Chem, Bio, Modern History and S&C)?

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    Re: Advanced vs Standard English

    I've heard that getting a B6 in Standard (at least for the pre-2019 HSC syllabuses) is actually much harder than getting a B6 in Advanced due to the Area of Study. I don't know whether this still applies but regardless I believe Advanced teaches you so much more than Standard and leaves you with more skills that extend beyond the classroom (i.e. tertiary style argumentative writing) that I would recommend doing it in spite of any greater difficulty
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    Re: Advanced vs Standard English

    Honestly Advanced is definitely manageable (most selective schools push for it) but if you definitely don't enjoy it then there's no point doing it.
    But I do recommend you to do it first and see how it is.

    You can always drop to standard but you can't go up to Advanced if you do suddenly want to pick it.
    ATAR-wise, they say you can get any ATAR with any subject, but I would recommend Advanced since it's harder to do well in Standard (apparently).

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    Re: Advanced vs Standard English

    I agree with the above- choose it and then drop to standard if you wish. If English still scales the same way as it did pre-2019, English Advanced and English Standard and scaled on the same scale- so that's why getting a band 6 in standard english is harder than getting a band 6 in advanced -> because it's all ranked on the same scale. You might find advanced more interesting than standard, which might aid you to study advanced over standard.
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    Re: Advanced vs Standard English

    After teaching for a while now I would say pick standard if you hate reading complicated texts, other than that both subjects are the same.

    In Standard you have to work just as hard as and Advanced student to produce a good essay but yes, there is a difficulty difference in that modules and text choices are must more simplistic in Standard compared to Advanced.

    If you plan to try hard for English, pick Advanced by default.
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    Re: Advanced vs Standard English

    I'd recommend that you choose English Advance as the aligning (proportion of the state getting in the higher bands) are substantially more despite similar hardness and scalling.
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