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    repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Hello, I just wanted your opinion on repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and chemistry? i wasnt able to do 4U maths this year due to not being able to do well in it while balancing my other subjects. I had a hug gap in my schooling (7-10) and catching up was difficult, although i feel as if im doing well right now. If i repeat i could accelerate 2U and chemistry and do 4U (new syllbus) the next year (2020). Also i got 64% for chemistry the first term and ranked 8/30, this year 5 people achieved a band 6 in chemistry at my school. Is a 92-95 in chemistry still achieveable? and any advice? thank you!!!

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by bestcomeback View Post
    Hello, I just wanted your opinion on repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and chemistry? i wasnt able to do 4U maths this year due to not being able to do well in it while balancing my other subjects. I had a hug gap in my schooling (7-10) and catching up was difficult, although i feel as if im doing well right now. If i repeat i could accelerate 2U and chemistry and do 4U (new syllbus) the next year (2020). Also i got 64% for chemistry the first term and ranked 8/30, this year 5 people achieved a band 6 in chemistry at my school. Is a 92-95 in chemistry still achieveable? and any advice? thank you!!!
    Honestly wouldn't repeat if I was you. Most courses in uni won't even need 4 unit maths, unless you are planning to do something like medicine where you need the extremely high ATAR, even so you can get same ATARs without 4 unit maths. So don't really see the benefit of repeating a whole year just for one subject. Have to look at it in the larger scope of things that being you lose one year when you could have just used that in first year university. Also, things like your friends won't be in the same uni year as you are also things to consider. That might make transition to uni harder. I would just personally accept that you missed the opportunity to do 4 unit (something that in uni won't be vital for most people even engineering students 3 unit is more than enough) and just focus on using that time in other subjects like chemistry.
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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    What are you planning to do at University/after school? From the information provided I do not think you should repeat year 11.
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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    sorry, i should have mentioned that i want to do medicine at uni.

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazz519 View Post
    Honestly wouldn't repeat if I was you. Most courses in uni won't even need 4 unit maths, unless you are planning to do something like medicine where you need the extremely high ATAR, even so you can get same ATARs without 4 unit maths. So don't really see the benefit of repeating a whole year just for one subject. Have to look at it in the larger scope of things that being you lose one year when you could have just used that in first year university. Also, things like your friends won't be in the same uni year as you are also things to consider. That might make transition to uni harder. I would just personally accept that you missed the opportunity to do 4 unit (something that in uni won't be vital for most people even engineering students 3 unit is more than enough) and just focus on using that time in other subjects like chemistry.

    I plan on doing medicine at uni, hence why i think repeating would be a great idea. I should also mention that im not only doing 4U for a high atar but rather just the interest in mathematics. any advice on how to achieve a 93 in chem? did you go tutoring, if so which place.

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Even if its medicine don't know if its the greatest idea to repeat a year. a lot of students have that idea of I will repeat and then because I repeated I will get the high ATAR. I don't want to shoot you down in that it's good to have goals but also don't forget that you need to also be realistic in that if you haven't done well in the subject before just by repeating it, there's no guarantee that you will get amazing at it. For that reason better off just sticking to 2 unit maths and 3 unit if possible and just trying to ace those, as for medicine remember you need to consider the time you have to put into doing practice for the Umat test which as you have already said before you weren't able to do 4 unit cause you couldn't balance it with other subjects

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Doesn't really matter what you want to do in uni, repeating is a terrible idea and a complete waste of time. If you're interested in higher level math, then grab a textbook and read it.
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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazz519 View Post
    Even if its medicine don't know if its the greatest idea to repeat a year. a lot of students have that idea of I will repeat and then because I repeated I will get the high ATAR. I don't want to shoot you down in that it's good to have goals but also don't forget that you need to also be realistic in that if you haven't done well in the subject before just by repeating it, there's no guarantee that you will get amazing at it. For that reason better off just sticking to 2 unit maths and 3 unit if possible and just trying to ace those, as for medicine remember you need to consider the time you have to put into doing practice for the Umat test which as you have already said before you weren't able to do 4 unit cause you couldn't balance it with other subjects I went to matrix tutoring in the holiday courses (so no tutoring during term), just went there really for the resources rather than needing help in the subject.
    What youre saying makes complete sense and i know where youre coming from, but i couldnt do 4U simply because of time. As i mentioned earlier i missed out on years 7-10 so catching up was difficult and i managed to catch up doing 2U and finding it easy enough. i know i could do 4U its just i didnr have the time and position other students had. i remember doing 3U from literally nothing, i didnt even do the prelim 2U course. but once i finished prelims i went back and taught myself all prelim 3U. its not the case of ive had every oppotunity and did bad in those courses, i know if i repeat ill do well and i know that ill be putting in the effort.

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by blyatman View Post
    Doesn't really matter what you want to do in uni, repeating is a terrible idea and a complete waste of time. If you're interested in higher level math, then grab a textbook and read it.
    why do you think its a bad idea? wont it be better than doing an extra year than doing a few extra years at uni?

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by bestcomeback View Post
    sorry, i should have mentioned that i want to do medicine at uni.
    In other words you need an ATAR of at least 94.3 (Newcastle UNI) or 95.5 (WSU), which should not be too much of a problem. I reckon you focus on acing your UCAT, that will do you a lot more good than an extra year in high school.

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by neverknow View Post
    In other words you need an ATAR of at least 94.3 (Newcastle UNI) or 95.5 (WSU), which should not be too much of a problem. I reckon you focus on acing your UCAT, that will do you a lot more good than an extra year in high school.
    Dont i need a 99? the average ATAR acceptance into med in any uni is 97/98?

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by bestcomeback View Post
    why do you think its a bad idea? wont it be better than doing an extra year than doing a few extra years at uni?
    Why would you be doing a few extra years at uni? Just do well in your first year and transfer across (where you might have some transferable credits), or do postgrad med. Either way, it's faster than repeating a year. Not to mention, repeating the HSC doesn't even guarantee you'll get in. What if you don't get in after repeating? Would you repeat a second time? There's plenty of alternative pathways into your desired course, so repeating y12 is unnecessary. You're also stopping your life for a year while your friends and everyone around you progresses on.
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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Average ATAR foir UNSW is 99.5, Usyd is .95 only. WSU and other Unis are definitely lower but that's the minimum mark, so you might get away with a high 98 ATAR and a really good UCAT score. Wouldn't recommend repeating just to do 4u though, seems like a waste of time. Maybe get into MedSci and transfer out to med in uni.

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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Jazz is living proof you don't need 4u to achieve a more than high enough atar for med. It really will be a waste of an entire year if you did actually repeat and still didn't get in or get the atar you wanted. Think of it that way. Whereas, the course and atar you want is still very much possible without repeating with your reason.
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    Re: repeating year 11 and accelerating 2U and Chemistry?

    Quote Originally Posted by bestcomeback View Post
    Dont i need a 99? the average ATAR acceptance into med in any uni is 97/98?
    Sorry I did not receive your notification.
    The Medicine Application and Entry process is highly exaggerated. It is dependant on three or four main things depending on universities.
    -ATAR
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    - Interview
    - Application

    WSU and UNCLE entry is THRESHOLD-BASED, meaning that once you meet the ATAR Requirement, your atar does not matter anymore. If anyone is telling you otherwise, they are wrong and are the type of people who dont know jack-shit about entry into medicine.

    Your UCAT determines your chances, since thats the actual hard part about entry. ATAR is hard to obtain but a good GPA is much easier. Hence, you must do well in the ucat.

    A lot of universities use interview and applications to give entry to students. If you are applying everywhere in Australia (why wouldnt you), you should keep this in mind and start working on your application now (entry for James Cook Uni).

    Avoid Medical Science at all costs. there is a very small chance of "transferring in" to undergrad med and does not usually happen.

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