Request For Raw Marks Denied

Captain pi · 12 Mar 2005, 2:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Xayma

Just a thought could the raw marks be accessed through UAC? This might have a little better luck, although they might have been advised against it.

Good idea, but, unfortunately, the Freedom of Information Act 1989 (NSW) does not cover universities.

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 2:20 PM

The UAC is not a university though.

The only thing is that it's primary function is directly related to unversities.

Captain pi · 12 Mar 2005, 2:56 PM

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Schedule 2 Exempt bodies and offices
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Universities—functions relating to dealing with information with respect to the ranking or assessment of students who have completed the Higher School Certificate for entrance into tertiary institutions.

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fu...IRST+0+N#sch.2

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 3:48 PM

Ahh ok.

Thanks for that, as I thought it wouldn't be likely.

Slidey · 12 Mar 2005, 3:48 PM

Who says the FOI need be used, though? UAC isn't BoS. They might be more willing.

Captain pi · 12 Mar 2005, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slide Rule

Who says the FOI need be used, though? UAC isn't BoS. They might be more willing.

I think James has tried to just get more scaling data, and failed. I think UAC are even more unwilling than the Board of Studies.

You could always write to them, of course. I am guessing they would allow you to view your name and sex, for instance. (I don't know whether they'd spend so much money to bother, though.)

**jm1234567890** · 12 Mar 2005, 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain pi

Good idea, but, unfortunately, the Freedom of Information Act 1989 (NSW) does not cover universities.

Laz was aware of that when he made the FOI request though.

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 4:59 PM

Yeah it was more of a thought of another route, oh well. Doesn't really matter that much I suppose.

Captain pi · 12 Mar 2005, 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1234567890

Laz was aware of that when he made the FOI request though.

What FOI request is this?

**jm1234567890** · 12 Mar 2005, 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain pi

What FOI request is this?

when he first made the thread about it last year

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 5:23 PM

Was that the state or national act? Since the database they talk about is a national database. Alas, the only results they would probably keep on the database would be UAI rather than all factors concerned with it.

Captain pi · 12 Mar 2005, 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1234567890

when he first made the thread about it last year

Sorry, I've totally missed your point.

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 6:12 PM

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Your results, including your UAI if you are eligible, will also be held on similar archives at tertiary admissions centres in other states in Australia.

I am thinking that is raw marks since that is the only marks with which UAC is provided.

Wouldn't the information contained in other states hence fall under their own FOI act? Although VTAC isn't listed as an agency for Victoria, I can't find any refrence protecting the University of Tasmania's records (granted I can't currently find more than an information sheet, at the moment) also of interest would be the other states, which also serves as the admission centre. Charles Darwin University (NT's admission centre) won't work because it isn't accessible through the state in which we got it.

The main problem is that it might all be similar to NT's. In that as the information can't be gotten through NSW jurisdiction it might become exempt under their acts due to it originating here.

withoutaface · 12 Mar 2005, 6:17 PM

I'm surprised to see Nelson criticising the BOS so publicly, perhaps if there's pressure from higher up the chain they might buckle.

Xayma · 12 Mar 2005, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xayma

I am thinking that is raw marks since that is the only marks with which UAC is provided.

Wouldn't the information contained in other states hence fall under their own FOI act? Although VTAC isn't listed as an agency for Victoria, I can't find any refrence protecting the University of Tasmania's records (granted I can't currently find more than an information sheet, at the moment) also of interest would be the other states, which also serves as the admission centre. Charles Darwin University (NT's admission centre) won't work because it isn't accessible through the state in which we got it.

The main problem is that it might all be similar to NT's. In that as the information can't be gotten through NSW jurisdiction it might become exempt under their acts due to it originating here.

Nevermind it is also exempt in Tasmania, as Im assuming it is transmitted in confidence. Might be worth a shot anyway since you dont get charged the fee if it can't be provided in Tasmania (they will give you an estimate of costings first).

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Xayma Lacking creativity HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,886 Last Activity: 11 Jun 2009, 9:17 PM	The UAC is not a university though. The only thing is that it's primary function is directly related to unversities.

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Xayma Lacking creativity HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,886 Last Activity: 11 Jun 2009, 9:17 PM	Was that the state or national act? Since the database they talk about is a national database. Alas, the only results they would probably keep on the database would be UAI rather than all factors concerned with it.