Explanation of HSC Marks (Moderating)

[poloktim]

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The Board had explained this to our year group before (year 12), and reading this is just a confirmation of what the representative said. Actually there was a point in there that made me breathe a heavy sigh of relief.

In my Japanese Continuers class we have three students: one who went to Japan for a year last year (and is consequently doing the preliminary course for everything but Japanese), myself and another bloke. The ranks in the class are respective.

The first bloke gets alright marks (he does better in Japanese Extension), sometimes I'll beat him. He'll normally get 90-100%. I'll normally get 75-100%, and the last ranked person normally gets 10-20% (In a written test he wrote some Japanese, couldn't think of anymore so wrote in English: "It's times like these I wish I studied more. OK OK. I promise I'll do better next time." He kept his promise by getting 60% -since the prelim course his highest mark).

Reading up there I've been relieved as I'll not averaged in the centre but where I am in relation to rank 1 and rank 3.

Thanks for the info

[pri]

im above average in my skool (overall) , but heaps below for maths, am I screwed?

I hope the proverbial smart bandwagon can help me for 3 u maths! even though I can drop it right now, I think Ill stick it out.

[redhat]

ahhh i understand now. Hey Laz and Ragerunner, can you please correct me if I am wrong.

If you are at a school of complete idiots and their consistency between School Assessment and exter. exam is not a pretty sight, then doesn't that mean a good person in that school is solely disadvantaged because of the group median?

[Lazarus]

No, because that good person would have found it easier to obtain a higher ranking, counter-balancing any negative moderating effects.

[DC10]

very nice explanation! - definitely appreciated

[~Dreamer]

hello, first time here,
and to ragerunner, ive learned more from uin 5 minutes about the strucuture of hsc marking, than our "year co-cordinator" who is still trying to explain tit to us

[Ragerunner]

why don't you explain it to him/her now then ?

[Beaky]

Anybody worried about Maths/Smart People/You doing shit listen to this story

- One of my friends did accelearated 2 unit maths at my school (selective) and obtained an assment mark of 65
- His ext exam mark was 93
- And the best part is... his exam mark got scaled up to 89... (his ranking was like 40th-35th)

so anybody doing shit, that has smart peers... dont worry.... keep working hard and you'll do fine

[flyin']

If you have smart peers, then your Assessment marks shouldn't be too bad. Especially if your ranked above them.

[DC10]

mmm if you are ranked above them, chances are that you are better than them anyway - so smart ppl win out in any case

[pigs_can_fly]

question: is it better to come say top 20 in a selective high school, or to come 1st in a comprehensive high school, assuming you would have gotten the same external exam mark regardless?

[Lazarus]

Hmm. I decided to edit and refine my answer.

high exam mark; e.g. 90
first scenario - very good, because you're likely to receive a higher moderated assessment mark, resulting in an HSC mark above 90
second scenario - good, because you'll most likely receive 90 as your moderated assessment mark, resulting in an HSC mark of 90

low exam mark; e.g. 70
first scenario - average, because you're likely to receive a high moderated assessment mark, resulting in an HSC mark around 80
second scenario - bad, because you'll receive the top exam mark as your moderated assessment mark, and that may not be too high, resulting in an HSC mark around 75

Looks like the selective school wins. It does depend, though.

[Affinity]

Very High Exam mark; eg 98
probably better with 1st in a comprehensive highschool

But chances of getting a 20th in school and such a high mark is slim

[DC10]

i would say if you're in a selective school with over 100 people doing that topic and you are good enough to come first, then you're guaranteed very high 90s. chances are for the first ranked person's mod. assessment mark will be like 98 or 99 and that he will rip the exam anyway if he could be ranked first in a selective school. Crying over my rank of 8th in chem now dropped to 40th

[Insomniac]

hey, i got a question

say, there are two people, ranked 1st and 2nd
and their assessment marks differ by 1% (just an example i wish i was coming first or second)
so, e.g. P1 - 91% and P2 - 90%

but then in the actual hsc exam, with the two highest marks, P2 gets 95, while P1 gets 90
would this mean that for the moderated school assessment mark:
P1 would get 95 and then P2 would get 90 (since 90 is the second best mark)
OR
P1 would get 95 and then P2 would get 94 (since the difference was one)?

thanks for your help