Explanation of HSC Marks (Moderating)

[Lazarus]

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The former would occur - see this thread.

Note that the reason is not because "90 is the second best mark", but because it is the only mark that would ensure that the moderated assessment marks had the same mean as the examination marks (as the other mark is fixed at 95).

[Insomniac]

ahhhh ok, i get it now

so what if there are more students, say 10 or so?
wouldn't they be given the 10 different marks in decreasing order?
that would keep the mean the same, or is it a little more complicated than that?

[Lazarus]

More complicated - they don't simply get the mark that corresponds to their rank. That only happens for the person ranked first. The other marks are spread out according to the relative differences between the students (in such a way that preserves the mean). It's explained in a bit more detail at the beginning of this thread, if I recall correctly.

[slyball]

i must be a complete idiot (while everyone here is understanding and i'm still confused..).

okay, here goes (please bear with me)...

afaik, you get three marks. exam, assessment and hsc.

i'm in a situation where i'm in a room almost full of idiots for IT. for it, we do almost nothing every lesson. we have only done two exams (internal assessments, right?)and those are the halfyearly and the trials. now, i came second for IT in the halfyearly. except i wasn't feeling too well (but not too sick to fill in a misadventure form) for the trials, resulting in my extremely low mark (second last in the class). i know the trials are worth ALOT, so my rank is going to be way down. when i do the hsc exam, i am sure i'll get a very good mark, that'll get 'taken' by others in the class, i'm sure. now, will it state anywhere on my report what mark i got orginally or just the mark that corresponded with my rank?

next, say i got 100% for hsc exam for IT and 40% (coming second last of 34 people since i stuffed up on trials) for moderated assessment mark, and other idiots are getting <50% for hsc. will they 'get' my mark? will my mark just be some mark <50% + 100% / 2? that's a bit unfair if it is since i bombed out on trials due to uncontrollable circumstances... will this great range in marks be taken into account so as not to unfairly award people?

[Lazarus]

By IT do you mean Industrial Technology, or Information Technology, or what exactly?

You're correct - your BOS Record of Achievement has three marks and a band printed on it for each course.

Your exam mark will always be your exam mark - nothing can change that. Your assessment mark will appear as a moderated mark according to your assessment rank and so on. Your HSC mark will be the average of the two.

If you "bombed out on trials due to uncontrollable circumstances" then you should have applied for illness/misadventure (and it might still be possible to). It's extremely unlikely that anyone in your class will receive less than 50%, so it would be more probable that your HSC mark would be something along the lines of 70% + 100% / 2.

[DC10]

are the marks for the school assessments used only in the rankings , resulting in the moderated school assessment marks (which comes from the HSC exam marks of the peers in your school)?

or do they ALSO get scaled and the mean of those school assessments marks taken into consideration by the BoS?

[Ragerunner]

they need the marks as well.

they take into consideration the relative differences in marks between rankings.

[DC10]

Originally posted by Ragerunner
they need the marks as well.

they take into consideration the relative differences in marks between rankings.

so the marks come into play? how does it then?
just say if i am if one person gets 80/100 (33/90) and another gets 65/100 (ranked 70/90), then what happens?

[slyball]

thanks laz.

they take into consideration the relative differences in marks between rankings.

yeah that was another question i forgot to ask.. how does that work?

[Ragerunner]

The BOS simply ensures that the moderating process preserves the relative differences between students - you will be just as far in front of and behind everyone else, relatively, as you were before your marks were moderated. Ratios are maintained.

[Ragerunner]

While procrastinating i've made a little flowchart for the basic process of the HSC system. Let me know if anything is wrong...

[TastesGoodBut]

i dont like that system, but at least it rids of the possibility of failing based on one exam and things... and makes scaling ok...

woodnt those that are coming first in all school assessments now just be like 'ah... not gonna study ill let everyoen else get the marks for me"

[Ragerunner]

No because although you will get the highest exam mark as your moderated assessment mark, how the HSC mark is calculated is through your HSC exam result + your moderated assessment mark and divided by 2 to get the average.

So if a person coming 1st in all subjects decides to bludge the HSC and get 50/100 for his Exam and the highest mark is 90/100. Then That person will have his HSC mark as (90 + 50) / 2 = 70.

which isn't very good.

[truly-in-bliss]

wowow ragerunner knows everything abt the workings of hsc.. hahah

[Lazarus]

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