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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    The above discussions beg for an answer to the following question:

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by jyu
    I feel good when I solve a problem without help.
    Do you feel as good when you read someone else's solution? I suspect not.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Speaking from doing advanced uni maths, numerical solutions are fine in my opinion, often they'll help give you an idea of where you're going wrong/what to do, without actually solving it for you. I never consult fully worked solutions though, even if i think theres no chance of getting the answer. Sometimes i wait weeks, or months, without retrying the question, and somehow the solution becomes evident. Only time i consult full solutions is to learn other methods of answering questions. I'm not that great at memorising, if i look at someone elses solutions, i will almost always not be able to reproduce it in an exam situation.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    "The best solution is the one that you found by yourself"

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Sydney boys use CAmbridge....

    *rushes out to get cambridge!!*

    PLay the game! sure, you could stick to ur own books and hope that by the time u reach the HSC you've learnt all ur stuff well enough to adapt to any question...
    OR
    you could do a wide range of questions from a wide range of texts and learn how to do things a variety of ways..
    of course we dont have enough time to learn EVERY method, but practice makes perfect...
    ive got 6 different books for ext 2 maths...
    im not going to get through all the questions.. but whenever i have spare time ill just flcik through and do what i can.

    its better to learn how to adapt your knowledge to differnt types of questions now, as opposed to having to learn how to do it in a HSC exam. [esp considering how short of time we are...]


    goodluck :]

    [p.s i love ext 2... much MUCH more than math or ext 1... circle geo *shuddes* so tedious..]

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by nichhhole
    [p.s i love ext 2... much MUCH more than math or ext 1... circle geo *shuddes* so tedious..]
    LOL, Circle Geometry is part of the Extension 2 course within the Harder 3 unit topic. So you'll encounter harder Circle Geometry in Extension 2...

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Circle geometry makes me cry too.

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    Sorry, I was looking for a crying one... Anyway...

    To me the most important thing for senior maths is understanding. Formulae and methods are tools, useful and necessary, but you've still gotta know how to apply them. Whenever I help out friends with two or three unit work what stands out as the problem isn't that they don't know their formulae but that they don't see how they should be applied, even on some diagnostic questions. As corny as this sounds you've gotta find the true spirit of Christmas maths, and often that means doing it the hard way. If you understand it, but still don't get the right numerical answer, to me, that's better than getting the right answer but not knowing why.

    As someone said earlier often it takes longer to get started that way, but in the end it pays off.

    Besides, nothing feels better than spending an hour on the one question before bed, getting nowhere, only to wake up the next morning with the answer in your head.
    Now that's joy. :P


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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I couldn't work out two questions from cambridge, took me a day to ponder. Walking around the house, playing a few games and working in other maths and physics textbooks.. and then it hit me.

    I feel soo happy when i work something out by myself! :thumbsu:


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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    buchanan. EVERY 4 unit student would LOVE to do it your way. By trying to solve it by themselves, trying and trying again UNTIL it is solved. UNFORTUNATELY BOARD OF STUDIES does not permit us to do so. Our school goes so fast when doing the 4 unit topics because there IS NO TIME. There is no time to think and ponder. Try once, try again and suddenly.... HSC

    What the board of studies should do is spread the curriculum over the 5 years of schooling. What maths did we do from year 7-10. Nothing. Just adding 5 plus 5 and factorising a + ab.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by bos1234
    buchanan. EVERY 4 unit student would LOVE to do it your way.
    Great!. Do it then.

    Quote Originally Posted by is2SWaNz
    I feel soo happy when i work something out by myself!
    I bet you wouldn't feel so good if you give up and read someone else's solution!

    And it's how it makes you feel that's important!

    So do it yourself and do it with a smile

    And if it takes you longer - all the better I say.

    Quote Originally Posted by bos1234
    BOARD OF STUDIES does not permit us to do so.
    This is incorrect.

    The Board of Studies stipulates that it should take no less than 2 years and no more than 5 years to complete the HSC.

    Some students in some schools already do HSC subjects well before Year 11 - well within existing BOS guidelines.

    Quote Originally Posted by bos1234
    What the board of studies should do is spread the curriculum over the 5 years of schooling.
    I'm not suggesting that no change is needed. In fact I even wrote a submission to the Board on what changes to make to the senior syllabuses, as did many other people. However this suggestion of yours is well within existing BOS guidelines. See http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au..._withlinks.pdf (page 99 of pdf)

    Of course most do it in 2 years and find that sufficient. Otherwise, you can take longer if you want (up to 5 years).
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Hey Guys,

    Im currently using the cambridge 4u book, Arnold. Very good book. However it did take some getting used to in respect to the jumps taken in worked examples. However answers to examples are very good and it is evident the authors are in the top of their field.
    The Coroneos book is quite good, but i believe does not cover all material, however i do not have the supplement text.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    What about learning concepts? Fitzpatrick? I personally cannot learn from cambridge but i do the questions.



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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    what textbook is best for explaining theory? i heard terry lee has great questions but the theory is not very good. cambridge, fitz or what is good for theory and has good questions? also is excel guide for 4unit good as well?

    edit: should i just go out and buy all good textbooks?
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    so whats the difference between the different editions of terry lee's books? is it just more correct answers or are there extra material and theory stuff?

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    More questions, fixing up of errors, more theory in some sections.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Cambridge for sure, fitzpatrick is weak and has no solutions.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    my maths teacher wrote the 4 unit cambridge book i saw her name on it
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Which Arnold?

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Unless Graham is a girl's name, I would deduce that it was Denise.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    lol
    according to my tutor terry lee is really good for challenging quesitons and later in the year when u r more ready
    fitz is good for additional qusetions
    but cambridge is the main one that goes from basic to challenging...and heaps of selectives use it as main textbook
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Hi i do 4unit with cambridge but cant seem to find any diffculties with it .. can every 1 tell me how many people are in your class mine there is only 2 and possibly 3 ... and your subjects please thanks you

    4unit maths 2unit english 2unit eco 2unit business studies

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    My school uses:
    Fitzpatrick - but the teacher recommends that you MUST do more than this
    Cambridge - i think some questions are hard but going through the numerous examples really help
    Patel - i think this is supposed to be the hardest, but i think some of the stuff is beyond requirement

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Mine uses S.Patel: I have a different view here 'cuz it's probably the better one compared to Cambridge in terms of a wide range of samples, ways of explaining problems and the the number of exercises.

    Cambridge still appeals to me more tho. Don't know why, maybe because it looks better, sounds cooler? Anyway, it requires more thinkings when looking at its examples so it's a good thing tho. The types of questions are also cool, hard but not boring. I like it.

    Does anyone has the '50 tips...'? It is said a lot of questions in this year paper are quite identical to those in that book! Wow. I'm hunting it now, really.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    well coroneos is good but i think u need to use it with patel (not excel!)... im wokring wid dem and finding it much easier before... btw dont work through every bloody question itll kill u..
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Ive got Cambridge and Coroneos. I learn from both and do the excercises from both. However I do plan on buying the fitzpatrick, terry lee book and the 4u mini hscs book too, for harder questions and hsc questions.

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