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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    cambridge books no longer reflect the style of exam questions.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by kony
    cambridge books no longer reflect the style of exam questions.
    What do you mean? As in they're inappropriate and unrealistic compared to the HSC exam questions?

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    denise arnold isn't neville weber. nor is graham arnold.

    on the other hand, neville weber isn't rod yager.

    hsc exams are inappropriate because the lc was better.

    not only was the lc better than the hsc, it was also better than the entrance exams prior to the lc.

    the sydney university senate tried to overrule professor carslaw, and temporarily succeeded, but ultimately failed because the old entrance exams were eventually replaced by the lc.

    and carslaw would be turning in his grave if he saw one of neville weber's exams.

    tg room's maths department at sydney uni being split up by keith bullen is inappropriate and the langland's program is trying to unify mathematics, not split it up

    a statistician as chief examiner for hsc maths is inappropriate, because margaret bigelow and her cronies reckon stats isn't maths.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    but allow me to contradict myself

    it is entirely appropriate that we all do neville weber's exams because it PROVES stats isn't maths.

    yes. that's right. it PROVES a statistician can't write a maths exam.

    and it PROVES keith bullen had a very good reason to split tg room's maths department up.

    oh. and carslaw would be laughing.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by Kujah
    What do you mean? As in they're inappropriate and unrealistic compared to the HSC exam questions?
    like, conics, we arent required to do locus on anything but rectangular hyperbola, but terry lee + patel both have questions on them. its great practice, but not required. other stuff im not too sure abt (cambridge i cant quite remember)

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    terry lee compleletely kills my brain and i DONT feel good after doing it, although it has full solutions and all =/..still sometimes his methods take too long when theres quicker alternatives

    cambridge all the way =D so wat IS the best txtbook thatl reflect exam type questions?

    i admit the hsc ques are harder than txtbook questions
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I have only just started doing 4unit this term as my school was screwing me around since i was the only one wanting to do it, so i need to use several textbooks.
    ATM my favourite would is Cambridge as it asks the hard questions plus the author teaches at my school
    I also have the copy of Patels book and find that the solutions he/she gives are not very good and tend to skip some worked answers
    I also have a copy of an Excel book but i dont know if this is considered a "textbook" as such but find that this book is helpful
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by jcurry
    I have only just started doing 4unit this term as my school was screwing me around since i was the only one wanting to do it, so i need to use several textbooks.
    ATM my favourite would is Cambridge as it asks the hard questions plus the author teaches at my school
    I also have the copy of Patels book and find that the solutions he/she gives are not very good and tend to skip some worked answers
    I also have a copy of an Excel book but i dont know if this is considered a "textbook" as such but find that this book is helpful
    wow ur lucky wat skoo is it btw? i dont like excel 4unit >=[
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    i got to terra sancta at quakers hill
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    We're using Cambridge and were also told to get Fitzpatrick from the library. However, we never use Fitzpatrick.

    Cambridge, as someone has said, skips steps when they provide examples, leaving you wondering how they got there when you're stuck halfway between steps! But the questions are good, of varying difficulty and fairly fulfilling. =]
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    In my experience i found cambridge to be the best book for a large portion of subjects but yeah diffrent books diffrent sections which are decent. Well here is a list of the books i used and the topics i found them useful in

    Complex numbers:
    Patel (great for complex)
    Cambridge
    Terry Lee

    Conics:
    Cambridge (best book you'll ever find)
    Terry Lee (if you're struggling and need worked answers)
    and Fitzpatrick if you want to fuck with your mind... those questions when you get past around about 17 are ridiculous.

    Integration:
    Cambridge (enough said)
    Terry Lee (again good guide to everything)
    Coroneus (100 questions at the back do them all and you should be set)

    Volumes:
    TEST PAPERS
    Cambridge (good for methods)
    Fitzpatrick (methods are slightly diffrent)
    Terry Lee
    Patel
    I just recommend all of them since volumes is a subject where you have to use your mind a bit more and not just solve the question but complete it in the least amount of time possible, so you have to know how to take the proper slice and what not. There are multiple methods they use and they name it diffrently i.e. washer method, cylinder method and the method where they unfold the cylinder into a rectanglular prism.

    Graphs:
    Terry Lee (this book is the best graphing book ever, in my opinion)
    Side note. Don't make your graphs look pretty or anything aim for efficency, two straight lines label the axis and the origin mark and mark any noteworthy points.

    Mechanics:
    Patel(has an extraneous section)
    Cambridge(slightly difficult)
    Terry Lee(if you're lost)

    Polynomials:
    Terry Lee
    Patel

    Harder 3U:
    Terry Lee ( i liked it cause harder 3u was my worst subject and this explained Perms and combs as well as harder binomial really well)
    Cambridge (for the circles very nice circles)


    All in all the 2 essential books i think you can't do without would be
    Terry Lee (covers everything in full detail with worked solutions, the worked solutions were always a saviour.)

    Cambridge (it'll take you a while getting used to, don't beleive all the crap that people say about how it's too difficult and dosn't cover everything in full detail. I beleived that when i first started 4u and didn't buy it until just before trials, and boy how wrong were my preconceived notions.)

    The best practice you can ever get is PAST PAPERS, if you do enough of these you can beat anyone, there used to be a site where they had hundreds of papers from numeous schools but i can't find it anymore. Well good luck and if you fail your school marks dw ( i got 90 school mark and still ended up with 96 exam mark)

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Last edited by buchanan; 11 Jan 2010 at 3:19 PM.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    cambridge is good enough for me, but sometimes the questions arnt clear enough. i reckon having both cambridge and terry lee is the way to go

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    We're using Cambridge and Coroneos, both are pretty good btw, but I'm thinking of getting a Terry Lee book cos i've heard his has good worked solutions. Where should i pick up a new copy?

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    We're using Cambridge and Patel at school, but my teacher gets us questions from other books if she deems it necessary.

    I'm using Coroneos for Extension 1 and i used it for 2U and my only problem with it is that it doesn't have worked answers so i'm glad i'm not using it for Extension 2.

    I use Excel for Extension 2 when i'm a bit lost doing homework because the fully worked answers are excellent and i like the questions there; great revision.


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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    We use Fitzpatrick plus the sheets the teacher gets from various sources. If I did all those sheets and Fitzpatrick would it be enough?


    Also I bought Cambridge 3U for the 3U course, should I continue doing and revising it even though I'm done with 3U? (hopefully I'm done with 3U) Harder 3U is examined in Extension 2 isn't it?

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    Quote Originally Posted by bell531
    We're using Cambridge and Coroneos, both are pretty good btw, but I'm thinking of getting a Terry Lee book cos i've heard his has good worked solutions. Where should i pick up a new copy?
    Pretty much any book store.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I'm going to start 3 unit maths in about a month but I'm worried because my school uses Maths in Focus. I've read on some other forums that it's not a good book. I'm thinking on buying Cambridge and Terry Lee. Do those books cover the entire stage 6 syllabus or only Year 12 work? I usually shop at the Mount Druitt shopping mall. Do any of you know if I can buy Terry Lee and Cambridge there?

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    ok,

    i think fitzpatrick is definitely the best textbook for its size. its slack to fitzpatrick if u compare books double its size!!! (especially 3unit cambridge)
    so fitzpatrick is the best size to quality ratio
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I dont know about you guys but while i was working through conics in flitzpatrick, i found flitzpatrick just ridiculous. Pages and pages of pointless algebra, by the end you cannot even recognise the original question was related to conics.

    I found that Patel was best for conics.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    ^^Agreed. If anybody has the time, check the ridiculousness of exercise 32 (c) question 8.
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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I would say Patel is probably the best book by itself. The questions vary in difficulty and unlike fitzpatrick, patel actually has the graphs drawn.
    Arnold & Arnold (Cambridge) is also a good book to study off, but some of the sets are a bit short

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    i have

    fitzpatrick; pretty basic, a gud starting point tho
    cambrige; harder sort of questions
    terry lee; a sad joke at best

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    I rekon Fitzpatrick has quite long, repetitive and mechanical exercises. Cambridge are much shorter, to the point and with various types and difficulties.

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    Re: Comparison of Maths Ext 2 books

    is Patel the Excel book? does that have good questions?

    also i recently got Coroneus which is good, but not always relevant

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