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karnevil · 31 Oct 2003, 5:11 PM

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What did you guys think? I thought it was pretty average~easy.... the second question was *kinda* hard but I jst thought about it for a while and jst kinda recounted some bits from the passages (e.g RENET, fushigi na kikai) to talk about my experiences with Oto

The first bit was piss! If I don't get full marks for that I'll be soooo surprised, I knew the texts back to front

post your thoughts!

sleepycat · 31 Oct 2003, 5:18 PM

what was the answer for the Q1?? "karera" = ??

em.. i think it was ok.... better than expected... ^^ hehe i guess i am lucki... HEHE coz' i onli studied Technology...

karnevil · 31 Oct 2003, 5:20 PM

that would be "Bokura" and it means "we/us" referring to males.... Oto was referring to himself and his classmates

Toodulu · 31 Oct 2003, 5:59 PM

hmm, wasn't it referring to him and the renet members

jogloran · 31 Oct 2003, 6:05 PM

I agree with Toodulu: that's what I wrote.

kt san · 31 Oct 2003, 7:07 PM

yeppies
i thought it was easy
just hope that i'm not misleading myself

Quote:

Originally posted by jogloran
I agree with Toodulu: that's what I wrote.

i second that agreement
i didn't do any practice essays so i almost didn't make the target of 600 ji

hk31 · 31 Oct 2003, 7:24 PM

i reckon it was a good paper!!

karnevil · 31 Oct 2003, 7:34 PM

Read pg175 of the english version of the book and youll realise he's referring to himself and the others who use RENET with him..... he doesn't use 'bokura' to refer to the RENET members overseas.

mle · 31 Oct 2003, 8:17 PM

yeah, bokura, i said oto and his friends who adopted the renet mailing list.

I reakon that was the best possible exam paper for me. I'm so happy, that was my best exam so far, even better than 2uJapanese!

which question did everyone choose for the long composition? I did the technology one and made up soemthing about a kid accidently demolishing his house after finding how to make a bomb on the net

Toodulu · 31 Oct 2003, 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by karnevil
Read pg175 of the english version of the book and youll realise he's referring to himself and the others who use RENET with him..... he doesn't use 'bokura' to refer to the RENET members overseas.

read the sample official answers for the worksheets (it's on a cd which i'm sure your teacher would have a copy of)

from the extract, you could've taken bokura to mean "our mailing list" or you could take it to mean people who named it renet. both of which would give the answer of ototake and members of the organisation. i think the overseas members play a kinda big role in the questions asked, don't you? i hope you at least mentioned that he referred to classmates who were members.

karnevil · 31 Oct 2003, 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toodulu
read the sample official answers for the worksheets (it's on a cd which i'm sure your teacher would have a copy of)

from the extract, you could've taken bokura to mean "our mailing list" or you could take it to mean people who named it renet. both of which would give the answer of ototake and members of the organisation. i think the overseas members play a kinda big role in the questions asked, don't you? i hope you at least mentioned that he referred to classmates who were members.

ouch! Yeah i referred to he and his classmates, and i wrote that bokura was used to mean 'our mailing list'

sorry if i sounded a bit hasty in the last post!

ilovemrchips · 31 Oct 2003, 9:16 PM

Yup yup, thought it was okay

I think I did well the in short answers and question 3

But fool that I am, I only left about 20minutes to do that bloody narrative so I'm not sure if i'll do very well in that one. I wrote about 600ji for that anyway. It had senior structures etc etc but the ideas were a bit simplistic

Anyways, glad to hear you guys did orrite =}

jogloran · 31 Oct 2003, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by karnevil
Read pg175 of the english version of the book and youll realise he's referring to himself and the others who use RENET with him..... he doesn't use 'bokura' to refer to the RENET members overseas.

I don't disagree with you in that the English translation renders it clear as day, but obviously, as our teacher says, we are studying the Japanese version, complete with any ambiguities.

Lexicographer · 1 Nov 2003, 2:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by karnevil
Read pg175 of the english version of the book and youll realise he's referring to himself and the others who use RENET with him..... he doesn't use 'bokura' to refer to the RENET members overseas.

Note: BOS doesn't recommend the English version because liberties have been taken in translation. It is much better to create your own translation and have your teacher verify. Of course, it's a bit late for that.

Anyway, it was one mark so I just said "refers to himself and other renet members" (paraphrased).

Isn't he already in Waseda by the time he's doing RENET?

karnevil · 1 Nov 2003, 9:33 AM

Yeah Lex I said it refers to him and his classmates to whom the RENET mailing list belongs to. I figured the fact that it belongs to them is important, as the very first kana after �{�N�� is ��, to indicate it is the mailing list 'of' them

31 Oct 2003, 5:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
karnevil Executive Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 454 Last Activity: 3 May 2006, 7:55 AM	JAP EXTENSION << thoughts You can hide this advertisement by registering. What did you guys think? I thought it was pretty average~easy.... the second question was kinda hard but I jst thought about it for a while and jst kinda recounted some bits from the passages (e.g RENET, fushigi na kikai) to talk about my experiences with Oto The first bit was piss! If I don't get full marks for that I'll be soooo surprised, I knew the texts back to front post your thoughts!

31 Oct 2003, 5:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Toodulu werd! HSC: 2003 Gender: Female Location: Sydney Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,447 Last Activity: 13 Jun 2006, 10:26 PM	hmm, wasn't it referring to him and the renet members __________________ I <3 Jezzmah

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hk31 Executive Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: shidonii Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 478 Last Activity: 6 Aug 2006, 11:14 PM	i reckon it was a good paper!! __________________ Class of 2003 B Commerce @ UNSW

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31 Oct 2003, 5:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
sleepycat Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 42 Last Activity: 25 Apr 2004, 11:00 PM	what was the answer for the Q1?? "karera" = ?? em.. i think it was ok.... better than expected... ^^ hehe i guess i am lucki... HEHE coz' i onli studied Technology...

31 Oct 2003, 5:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
karnevil Executive Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 454 Last Activity: 3 May 2006, 7:55 AM	that would be "Bokura" and it means "we/us" referring to males.... Oto was referring to himself and his classmates

31 Oct 2003, 6:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
jogloran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 103 Last Activity: 20 Oct 2004, 10:02 AM	I agree with Toodulu: that's what I wrote.

31 Oct 2003, 7:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
karnevil Executive Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 454 Last Activity: 3 May 2006, 7:55 AM	Read pg175 of the english version of the book and youll realise he's referring to himself and the others who use RENET with him..... he doesn't use 'bokura' to refer to the RENET members overseas.

31 Oct 2003, 8:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
mle Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 41 Last Activity: 29 Nov 2003, 5:42 PM	yeah, bokura, i said oto and his friends who adopted the renet mailing list. I reakon that was the best possible exam paper for me. I'm so happy, that was my best exam so far, even better than 2uJapanese! which question did everyone choose for the long composition? I did the technology one and made up soemthing about a kid accidently demolishing his house after finding how to make a bomb on the net

31 Oct 2003, 9:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
ilovemrchips Assistant Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 83 Last Activity: 2 Jan 2004, 1:59 PM	Yup yup, thought it was okay I think I did well the in short answers and question 3 But fool that I am, I only left about 20minutes to do that bloody narrative so I'm not sure if i'll do very well in that one. I wrote about 600ji for that anyway. It had senior structures etc etc but the ideas were a bit simplistic Anyways, glad to hear you guys did orrite =}

1 Nov 2003, 9:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
karnevil Executive Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 454 Last Activity: 3 May 2006, 7:55 AM	Yeah Lex I said it refers to him and his classmates to whom the RENET mailing list belongs to. I figured the fact that it belongs to them is important, as the very first kana after �{�N�� is ��, to indicate it is the mailing list 'of' them