is mathematics even scaled up

ronaldo · 28 Oct 2003, 3:32 PM

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hey is mathematics even scaled up and by how much like how much was it scaled up to last year and the year before, and i dont understand how ppl say if everyone goes bad in this test we will all get scaled up, if anyone can explain my questions plz feel free

badlysketched · 28 Oct 2003, 3:53 PM

YES!!! it WILL be scaled up! in 2001 it was scaled up about 10%... basically what they do is look at how everyone did and statistically compare it to the year before (u now if the majority of people got 50% this year and last year the majority of people got 70% for their final mark then they might even scale us up 20%)

of course the actual scaling process is unknown to pretty much everyone except the people who scale the marks up/design the program that does it for the scalers!!! this is just what i've been told... i'm been told by someone who did the 2001 paper they were scaled up about 10% and we should expect to be scaled up roughly 20%... thats only an estimate based on how people are saying they went though. we can't really be sure... but rest assured with this test you WILL be scaled up... if they don't it will be EXTREME unfair in comparison to the other years so they have to. dun worry so much! everyone did crappy. u are hearing the cream of the crop results here. these are all dedicated students! lots of people just walked out of the exam and didn't care... and if they didn't care they wouldn't be here worrying! u might be surprised at your results in the end

cheers and good luck!!!!!

geez85 · 30 Oct 2003, 11:14 AM

is this in terms of uai?

Left-ism · 30 Oct 2003, 11:38 AM

no
in terms of board of studies scaling...uai scaling is completely seperate

PRSOV · 31 Oct 2003, 4:16 PM

Guys,
They dont actually compare you to the year beforehand. What actually happens is they mark all of the papers and then calculate the AVERAGE mark. They then scale so that the average mark is 60%.

Cheers,
M. Nicol

**Lazarus** · 31 Oct 2003, 4:18 PM

I should point out that every post so far is completely wrong.

If you want an accurate answer to your question, start an appropriate thread in the "UAI/HSC Marks - Technical Arcana" forum.

PRSOV · 31 Oct 2003, 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lazarus
I should point out that every post so far is completely wrong.

If you want an accurate answer to your question, start an appropriate thread in the "UAI/HSC Marks - Technical Arcana" forum.

Hmmm every post so far is wrong, well If what I said is wrong then my 4U and 3U teachers must really have no idea about the scaling of the 2U course considering they teach 2U mathematics as well.

Cheers,
M. Nicol

Beaky · 31 Oct 2003, 7:37 PM

lol I think Laz has an idea...

Ragerunner? We need you now

**Ragerunner** · 31 Oct 2003, 8:22 PM

Put it this way,

Hard exam = bad

bad = bad scaling

bad scaling = bad candidture

bad candidture = bad scaling

This is the UAC i'm talking about. What the BOS does with our marks although makes it look more cool, the UAC takes our RAW marks and scales its ass downwards, for mathematics im talking about.

So when the newspaper say it will be compensated, it will, but we don't care what the BOS does, all we care about is the UAI.

PRSOV · 1 Nov 2003, 5:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ragerunner
Put it this way,

Hard exam = bad

bad = bad scaling

bad scaling = bad candidture

bad candidture = bad scaling

This is the UAC i'm talking about. What the BOS does with our marks although makes it look more cool, the UAC takes our RAW marks and scales its ass downwards, for mathematics im talking about.

So when the newspaper say it will be compensated, it will, but we don't care what the BOS does, all we care about is the UAI.

I dont really care that much what UAI I get, I just want to get really good hsc exam marks

badlysketched · 1 Nov 2003, 7:53 PM

yeh my UAI doesn't matter at all. i'm thinking HSC marks and thats what i was told by my teacher... and of course if they scaled last years papers so the average was 60... and then they scaled the average this years papers to match... hmmm... wouldn't the average also be 60? i guess it just depends if my teacher took the long way around... she obviously didn't know exactly what the average was scaled to. anyways since i was so completely wrong i apologise for the inaccurate information, its only what i was told by my teachers at school. i also said the exact process is unknown to most people, when i did try to find out (when i was planning to go to uni) i could find no accurate info on it, besides i have had other things to do that research it for kicks. sorry dude... all i know is our HSC marks are scaled up... and yes that does matter if you aren't going to uni, its good in job applications.

blah whatever, was just trying to help

iambored · 1 Nov 2003, 10:17 PM

as far as i understand, some people still have to get band 6s, so they are going to have to up some of the marks

all the hsc marks are over 50, so if someone got 30% that will be upped obviously

**Lazarus** · 2 Nov 2003, 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PRSOV
Hmmm every post so far is wrong, well If what I said is wrong then my 4U and 3U teachers must really have no idea about the scaling of the 2U course considering they teach 2U mathematics as well.

The whole "set the average to be 60%" thing was part of the old HSC.

MrMiK · 2 Nov 2003, 12:30 PM

ahh poop.
all i wanted was band 3.. thats all.. why so they always do this to me..

choc-chip · 5 Nov 2003, 11:57 AM

ppl who smart in maths would prefer the exam go harder...
so they would freak out ...if da exam is easy,so every1 get the high mark which is mean da uai would b scale down?is it ture??

28 Oct 2003, 3:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
ronaldo Junior Member Location: syd Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 45 Last Activity: 25 Feb 2004, 8:11 PM	is mathematics even scaled up You can hide this advertisement by registering. hey is mathematics even scaled up and by how much like how much was it scaled up to last year and the year before, and i dont understand how ppl say if everyone goes bad in this test we will all get scaled up, if anyone can explain my questions plz feel free

31 Oct 2003, 4:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
PRSOV Member Location: Somewhere in space Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 178 Last Activity: 24 Jun 2004, 8:10 AM	Guys, They dont actually compare you to the year beforehand. What actually happens is they mark all of the papers and then calculate the AVERAGE mark. They then scale so that the average mark is 60%. Cheers, M. Nicol __________________ Cheers, PRSOV (Class of 2003)...

31 Oct 2003, 4:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lazarus Bored Admin HSC: 2001 Gender: Male Location: CBD Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,533 Last Activity: 18 Mar 2010, 9:55 AM	I should point out that every post so far is completely wrong. If you want an accurate answer to your question, start an appropriate thread in the "UAI/HSC Marks - Technical Arcana" forum. __________________ Lazarus Et in arcadia ego...

31 Oct 2003, 7:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Beaky You can read minds? HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Northen Beaches Position: Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,411 Last Activity: 30 Jan 2009, 7:49 PM	lol I think Laz has an idea... Ragerunner? We need you now __________________ Class of 03 B Business/ B Computing @ UTS More Family Guy Quotes Brian: Hola, me Ilamo es brian ... Nosotros caramos ir condustedes.. uhhhh ... Bellboy(spanish): Hey, that was pretty good, except when you said "me llamo es Brian," you don't need the "es," just me llamo Brian. Brian: Oh, oh you speak english Bellboy (sigh): No, just that first speech and this one explaining it. Brian: You .... you're kidding me, right? Bellboy(spanish): Que?

31 Oct 2003, 8:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ragerunner Your friendly HSC guide HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: UNSW Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,469 Last Activity: 30 Jul 2009, 9:22 PM	Put it this way, Hard exam = bad bad = bad scaling bad scaling = bad candidture bad candidture = bad scaling This is the UAC i'm talking about. What the BOS does with our marks although makes it look more cool, the UAC takes our RAW marks and scales its ass downwards, for mathematics im talking about. So when the newspaper say it will be compensated, it will, but we don't care what the BOS does, all we care about is the UAI. __________________ B Science @ UNSW (Major in Psychology) See green? It's just your imagination.

28 Oct 2003, 3:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
badlysketched Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 35 Last Activity: 10 Nov 2003, 10:37 PM	YES!!! it WILL be scaled up! in 2001 it was scaled up about 10%... basically what they do is look at how everyone did and statistically compare it to the year before (u now if the majority of people got 50% this year and last year the majority of people got 70% for their final mark then they might even scale us up 20%) of course the actual scaling process is unknown to pretty much everyone except the people who scale the marks up/design the program that does it for the scalers!!! this is just what i've been told... i'm been told by someone who did the 2001 paper they were scaled up about 10% and we should expect to be scaled up roughly 20%... thats only an estimate based on how people are saying they went though. we can't really be sure... but rest assured with this test you WILL be scaled up... if they don't it will be EXTREME unfair in comparison to the other years so they have to. dun worry so much! everyone did crappy. u are hearing the cream of the crop results here. these are all dedicated students! lots of people just walked out of the exam and didn't care... and if they didn't care they wouldn't be here worrying! u might be surprised at your results in the end cheers and good luck!!!!!

30 Oct 2003, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
geez85 Assistant Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 58 Last Activity: 19 Dec 2003, 11:41 PM	is this in terms of uai?

30 Oct 2003, 11:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Left-ism Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 190 Last Activity: 20 Oct 2009, 2:29 PM	no in terms of board of studies scaling...uai scaling is completely seperate

1 Nov 2003, 7:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
badlysketched Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 35 Last Activity: 10 Nov 2003, 10:37 PM	yeh my UAI doesn't matter at all. i'm thinking HSC marks and thats what i was told by my teacher... and of course if they scaled last years papers so the average was 60... and then they scaled the average this years papers to match... hmmm... wouldn't the average also be 60? i guess it just depends if my teacher took the long way around... she obviously didn't know exactly what the average was scaled to. anyways since i was so completely wrong i apologise for the inaccurate information, its only what i was told by my teachers at school. i also said the exact process is unknown to most people, when i did try to find out (when i was planning to go to uni) i could find no accurate info on it, besides i have had other things to do that research it for kicks. sorry dude... all i know is our HSC marks are scaled up... and yes that does matter if you aren't going to uni, its good in job applications. blah whatever, was just trying to help

1 Nov 2003, 10:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
iambored dum-di-dum HSC: 2003 Gender: Undisclosed Location: here Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,080 Last Activity: 25 Jun 2009, 9:34 AM	as far as i understand, some people still have to get band 6s, so they are going to have to up some of the marks all the hsc marks are over 50, so if someone got 30% that will be upped obviously

2 Nov 2003, 12:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
MrMiK Member Location: Albion Park Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 144 Last Activity: 25 Apr 2004, 11:19 AM	ahh poop. all i wanted was band 3.. thats all.. why so they always do this to me.. __________________ -M- ridin "TroniX 2500+"

5 Nov 2003, 11:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
choc-chip Executive Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Female Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 415 Last Activity: 7 Sep 2006, 10:23 AM	ppl who smart in maths would prefer the exam go harder... so they would freak out ...if da exam is easy,so every1 get the high mark which is mean da uai would b scale down?is it ture?? __________________ WHITE GARDENIA-Belinda Alexandra

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