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    Is St Marys Good?

    Hi! I'm in year 10 and I've been thinking about applying to St Marys Senior High School, but I've heard some bad stories and I'm not sure what to believe. Is St Marys a good school or should I stay away?

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Hey, personally I'm going to apply for this year, and honestly from the things I've heard from peers, they have quite shit teachers, it's mostly an independent school, meaning it really depends on you, it could be the worst school ever or the best but then again it depends on you, it's like university and quite independent. At least this is what I've heard from peers.

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    when i was in year 10, everyone goes there just because there is no school uniform and because they say "you get treated like adults" and more independent just like uni

    these were the people that died at uni or didn't even make it there (some did tho). make a proper decision about your future and look at other schools
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Squar3root View Post
    when i was in year 10, everyone goes there just because there is no school uniform and because they say "you get treated like adults" and more independent just like uni

    these were the people that died at uni or didn't even make it there (some did tho). make a proper decision about your future and look at other schools
    Is it hard to get in though? How hard would you say it is to get in

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Is it hard to get in though? How hard would you say it is to get in
    I've been out of high school for 8 years now but from what i remember the selection is completely random. I do remember 2 of my friends applied one with no ECs and the other one with a few but the one with no ECs got in
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Squar3root View Post
    I've been out of high school for 8 years now but from what i remember the selection is completely random. I do remember 2 of my friends applied one with no ECs and the other one with a few but the one with no ECs got in
    Oh wow, I've seen that trend too. Just a question out of topic that's in my mind for ages, Im guessing you're in university or completed it. Would you say completing the HSC was harder or UNI. By completing the HSC i mean completing with a good ATAR.

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Oh wow, I've seen that trend too. Just a question out of topic that's in my mind for ages, Im guessing you're in university or completed it. Would you say completing the HSC was harder or UNI. By completing the HSC i mean completing with a good ATAR.

    Uni is definitely harder. Just to give you some perspective.

    Every week I have 6 Math quizzes, 2 Physics quizzes, 6-7 coding tasks due, plus now I have an assignment for comp sci, a Maths exam and a Physics exam within 1 week. RIP to me.

    But then again in uni I only have to do what I like, so its not like I'm wasting time like English in the HSC.
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    hey, i'm in year 12 and i go to st marys senior high. from my experience, i would say st marys senior is a good school to attend and finish your senior years at. but there's always two sides of the story and i guess it depends on your experience

    there's an open evening on friday the 5th of april from 3pm-6pm. you should come and check it out
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by hailoys View Post
    hey, i'm in year 12 and i go to st marys senior high. from my experience, i would say st marys senior is a good school to attend and finish your senior years at. but there's always two sides of the story and i guess it depends on your experience ������

    there's an open evening on friday the 5th of april from 3pm-6pm. you should come and check it out
    Hey, how hard was it to get in, did your friends get in? And what did u submit to the school??

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Oh wow, I've seen that trend too. Just a question out of topic that's in my mind for ages, Im guessing you're in university or completed it. Would you say completing the HSC was harder or UNI. By completing the HSC i mean completing with a good ATAR.
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    Uni is definitely harder. Just to give you some perspective.

    Every week I have 6 Math quizzes, 2 Physics quizzes, 6-7 coding tasks due, plus now I have an assignment for comp sci, a Maths exam and a Physics exam within 1 week. RIP to me.

    But then again in uni I only have to do what I like, so its not like I'm wasting time like English in the HSC.
    yea completed uni end of 2018 working in my field now.

    uni was harder but the way drdusk is putting it is an exaggerated view

    he would be 1st year and the most you do in sem 1 is math1141 and there was only 2 classes per week.

    unless he is talking about the maple quizzes which are piss ez and can be done pretty quickly
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Squar3root View Post
    yea completed uni end of 2018 working in my field now.

    uni was harder but the way drdusk is putting it is an exaggerated view

    he would be 1st year and the most you do in sem 1 is math1141 and there was only 2 classes per week.

    unless he is talking about the maple quizzes which are piss ez and can be done pretty quickly
    yeah they are easy asf but I'm talking on behalf of the average student. So many students have trouble with it lol.

    Seriously though 2 classes per week? I have 4, probably because of trimesters dammit
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drdusk View Post
    yeah they are easy asf but I'm talking on behalf of the average student. So many students have trouble with it lol.

    Seriously though 2 classes per week? I have 4, probably because of trimesters dammit
    pretty sure the average for maple was like 90% lmao

    everyone just copied each other/did in groups and there was the solutions for the maple exam floating around on the facebook groups

    http://timetable.unsw.edu.au/2019/MATH1141.html#S1-5284

    6HRS Of lectures, we had 4 and i am assuming you have 1x calc tut and 1x algebra tut. that is what we had

    Schief is a good lecturer once you get past the accent from memory
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Squar3root View Post
    pretty sure the average for maple was like 90% lmao

    everyone just copied each other/did in groups and there was the solutions for the maple exam floating around on the facebook groups

    http://timetable.unsw.edu.au/2019/MATH1141.html#S1-5284

    6HRS Of lectures, we had 4 and i am assuming you have 1x calc tut and 1x algebra tut. that is what we had

    Schief is a good lecturer once you get past the accent from memory
    Wow, I see so University is harder in your experience. On a typical HSC day though, how hard would you work and for how long, if you remember.?

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    I graduated from St Marys 2 yrs ago so here's my 2c from what I can remember

    Now to get in, you just hand them in your application form and reports/NAPLAN/other docs etc and they'll assess it and will let you know, so no need for exams or anything. Now me being so bad at English, couldn't get into other selectives (penrith girra etc) so I applied for st marys very late (forgot when) and they said that the chances are pretty small, but eventually got in haha. So as long as you have average to good academic results and good EC's, then you'll defs get in

    The school itself is pretty average and is ranked around ~150. They excel at the humanitarian subjects (legal, eng, bus etc) and iirc, they had a couple of state ranks for legal, eng std, general maths etc in 2016
    However, the STEM side is a bit average I'd say and only a few gets band 6 for the science subjects (I think I was the only one with b6 phys and chem in my year lol), but the math side is a bit better (there were some really enthusiastic students from my year and 2018)

    The teachers are average - good. I was super lucky I had the best ones, esp my math (but she left rip) and chem (gave me extra resources/textbooks to go ahead during the holidays, and even allowed me to skip classes and work on past papers in the library HAHA). So ye the majority of the teachers are really good (although a lot of em are leaving now) and you can also call them by their first name and the student - teacher relationship is super chill too

    However, I wasn't a big fan of the pacing of content as I found it pretty slow (might have changed now), especially the science subjects, as we literally had to self learn 1 or 2 modules as part of research tasks and the last module of chem during the last few weeks of yr12. So yeh in that respect, I guess it's like uni, a lot of self learning needed and they do emphasise the 'independence' a lot

    aand yeh also no uniform, and being yr11 and 12 only, the cohort is pree large and also very culturally diverse, and most of the student are pree friendly and easy going

    also the schools literally a 5 min walk away from the train station (if you take public transport), although the area is a bit dodgy haha. And you also have a small mall (st marys village) with woolies, maccas and all the major stores within a 5 min walk from school

    I would say definitely try other selective schools first, and like others said, your experience will really depend on you and if you do get in, make sure to utilise all the available opportunities
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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by jathu123 View Post
    I graduated from St Marys 2 yrs ago so here's my 2c from what I can remember

    Now to get in, you just hand them in your application form and reports/NAPLAN/other docs etc and they'll assess it and will let you know, so no need for exams or anything. Now me being so bad at English, couldn't get into other selectives (penrith girra etc) so I applied for st marys very late (forgot when) and they said that the chances are pretty small, but eventually got in haha. So as long as you have average to good academic results and good EC's, then you'll defs get in

    The school itself is pretty average and is ranked around ~150. They excel at the humanitarian subjects (legal, eng, bus etc) and iirc, they had a couple of state ranks for legal, eng std, general maths etc in 2016
    However, the STEM side is a bit average I'd say and only a few gets band 6 for the science subjects (I think I was the only one with b6 phys and chem in my year lol), but the math side is a bit better (there were some really enthusiastic students from my year and 2018)

    The teachers are average - good. I was super lucky I had the best ones, esp my math (but she left rip) and chem (gave me extra resources/textbooks to go ahead during the holidays, and even allowed me to skip classes and work on past papers in the library HAHA). So ye the majority of the teachers are really good (although a lot of em are leaving now) and you can also call them by their first name and the student - teacher relationship is super chill too

    However, I wasn't a big fan of the pacing of content as I found it pretty slow (might have changed now), especially the science subjects, as we literally had to self learn 1 or 2 modules as part of research tasks and the last module of chem during the last few weeks of yr12. So yeh in that respect, I guess it's like uni, a lot of self learning needed and they do emphasise the 'independence' a lot

    aand yeh also no uniform, and being yr11 and 12 only, the cohort is pree large and also very culturally diverse, and most of the student are pree friendly and easy going

    also the schools literally a 5 min walk away from the train station (if you take public transport), although the area is a bit dodgy haha. And you also have a small mall (st marys village) with woolies, maccas and all the major stores within a 5 min walk from school

    I would say definitely try other selective schools first, and like others said, your experience will really depend on you and if you do get in, make sure to utilise all the available opportunities
    Feel free to hmu if you have any other questions or anything!
    Heyy bro that was nice to know, I applied really early by the way, will this lift up my chances?? I did like a few EC's , i got an average report and lots of Distinctions from ICAS and other comps, i handed those in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Wow, I see so University is harder in your experience. On a typical HSC day though, how hard would you work and for how long, if you remember.?
    pretty sure everyone's experience lmaooooo

    hsc day was like 1hr work, maybe 2-3 during peak, rank 600 school

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squar3root View Post
    pretty sure everyone's experience lmaooooo

    hsc day was like 1hr work, maybe 2-3 during peak, rank 600 school

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    Damn rank 600 isn't that like last or close to it or something, did u get DUX for your school lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Damn rank 600 isn't that like last or close to it or something, did u get DUX for your school lmao
    close to last yea lol

    nah someone got 94 atar and did comm at unsw she got dux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Wow, I see so University is harder in your experience. On a typical HSC day though, how hard would you work and for how long, if you remember.?
    I'll be honest I didn't work as hard as I could've. I procrastinated quite a lot with my HSC study because out of all my subjects 4u and Software design were the only subjects I enjoyed, whereas subjects like English and Physics felt like a joke.

    But to put a number on it, I guess without procrastination 1.5 - 2 hours a day of HSC study focused mostly on Software and Maths haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accurate View Post
    Hey, how hard was it to get in, did your friends get in? And what did u submit to the school??
    it wasn’t hard to get in for me – talk about achievements, talk about your FUTURE AND GOALS, say that people told you it was a good school and e.c’s. not all my friends got in but most of them did get in. i submitted a past report, naplan, any relevant awards.

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    Hey! I'm currently in St Marys and currently do mx2, mx1, physics, chem, engineering and eng stand. I can't really say if you should go or not but what I can say is how it is. For the science faculty, they were really unprepared when it came to the new syllabus for our grade, making us skip almost the whole physics 4th module and to learn ourselves in year 11, they expect you to do most of the work outside of class however they do give you what you put in. As for chem, it was much much better prepared and the teachers are much more enthusiastic about chemistry from what I've seen, (there are two physics teachers for year 12 and one is leaving next year but there are other teachers that can teach physics next year) but there are not many experiments and its mainly completing booklets. To make up for this, they do hold before school and after school physics and chemistry tutorials which personally are much better than the classes, since they do go much faster and go through HSC style questions.

    For maths, the extension classes tend to get much better teachers than the advanced and standard maths classes. We do have good math teachers here but there isn't really that deep passion for maths. However, I still enjoy the maths classes as they go through content quite quickly and thoroughly. The mx2 class is much faster paced than mx1 class with the lessons being just teacher talking and students writing down whats on the board.

    Engineering was very slow in year 11 due to the original engineering teacher being away, but there is a new engineering teacher and he is very experienced and lenient. His lessons are quite enjoyable and tend to be solving engineering questions individually and then as a class discussing it. He does hold afterschool engineering tutorials for students who want to do extra work and go through engineering skills.

    English is wild. Every teacher is different and every class will have different things to say, especially in standard. The english teachers are quite stricter and less lenient than any other faculty but this is just my opinion which is very different to all students. They do have debating and public speaking competitions but its quite unorganised.

    St Marys is great if you like to work on things independently and being part of a community, there are plenty of resources and teachers to talk to (our careers advisor received careers advisor of the year award).

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    Re: Is St Marys Good?

    If you have a strong will, discipline and desire to succeed you should come.
    There is virtually no punishment for truancy, lateness or absence so there is a lot of temptation to jig
    The shops are really close by so most students go there during their free periods.
    If you can play this freedom to your advantage, you should come. Most teachers are really good at their jobs, some are not. The school is great for resources and services.
    Think about all ive said before making your decision, i'm in year 11 and go St Marys so trust me.
    Please try out for higher ranked selective schools such as Penrith, Girraween etc before even considering St Marys
    Hope I've helped

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