Tax babies 'to save planet' another global warming scare tactic. (1 Viewer)

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COUPLES who have more than two children should be charged a lifelong tax to offset their extra offspring's carbon dioxide emissions, a medical expert says.

The report in an Australian medical journal called for parents to be charged $5000 a head for every child after their second, and an annual tax of up to $800.

And couples who were sterilised would be eligible for carbon credits under the controversial proposal.

Perth specialist Professor Barry Walters was heavily critical of the $4000 baby bonus, saying that paying new parents extra for every baby fuelled more children, more emissions and "greenhouse-unfriendly behaviour".

Instead, it should be replaced with a "baby levy" in the form of a carbon tax in line with the "polluter pays" principle, he wrote in the latest Medical Journal of Australia.

"Every family choosing to have more than a defined number of children should be charged a carbon tax that would fund the planting of enough trees to offset the carbon cost generated by a new human being," said Prof Walters, an obstetrician at King Edward Memorial Hospital.

Sustainable Population Australia suggested a maximum of two, he said.

By the same reasoning, contraceptives like diaphragms and condoms, as well as sterilisation procedures, should attract carbon credits, the specialist said.

"As doctors, I believe we need to think this way," he wrote in a letter to the journal.

"As Australians I believe we need to be less arrogant.

"As citizens of the world, I believe we deserve no more population concessions than those in India or China."

Garry Eggers, director of the NSW Centre for Health Promotion and Research, agreed with the call, saying former treasurer Peter Costello's request for three children per family - "one for mum, one for dad and one for the country" - was too single-minded.

"Population remains crucial to all environmental considerations," wrote Professor Eggers, a leading advocate of the personal carbon trading debate.

"The debate (around population control) needs to be reopened as part of a second ecological revolution."

Family groups rejected the calls, saying larger families used less energy than smaller ones and should not be penalised.



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this is so sad, global warming is a myth, they invest money for millions on summits just to see leaders stay in luxury hotels and discuss about something that's a natural cause. what's next? taxing on digital cameras because it's causing 10% carbon emissions every time the camera flashes?, oh maybe we'd be taxed if we're excising daily or member of a gym, because going to the gym would heat up the planet, lolz.

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this is so sad, global warming is a myth, they invest money for millions on summits just to see leaders stay in luxury hotels and discuss about something that's a natural cause. what's next? taxing on digital cameras because it's causing 10% carbon emissions every time the camera flashes?, oh maybe we'd be taxed if we're excising daily or member of a gym, because going to the gym would heat up the planet, lolz.

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why yes that is sad. but global warming is not a myth.
 

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The stupidest thing I've ever heard...
Why don't we all get taxed then, because we all contribute to the 'problem' (I'm a skeptic :))
This is getting sillier then the obsession the west had with terriosm... the world is full of fools ....(ok, im going offtopic onto a rant)
 

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chicky_pie said:
this is so sad, global warming is a myth, they invest money for millions on summits just to see leaders stay in luxury hotels and discuss about something that's a natural cause. what's next? taxing on digital cameras because it's causing 10% carbon emissions every time the camera flashes?, oh maybe we'd be taxed if we're excising daily or member of a gym, because going to the gym would heat up the planet, lolz.

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If you continue to spout a scientifically unsubstantiated viewpoint without sufficient evidence to back it up, people will continue to ignore you.

TBH, I can sort of understand limiting population growth in Australia - we don't NEED more people to have a functioning economy, and as long as the balance between age ranges is kept steady (i.e. personal replacement, 1 child for each person - which is relatively sustainable). Enforcement, or any compulsion via TAX, however, is wrong. More than two children should just not be rewarded.
 

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Kwayera said:
If you continue to spout a scientifically unsubstantiated viewpoint without sufficient evidence to back it up, people will continue to ignore you.

TBH, I can sort of understand limiting population growth in Australia - we don't NEED more people to have a functioning economy, and as long as the balance between age ranges is kept steady (i.e. personal replacement, 1 child for each person - which is relatively sustainable). Enforcement, or any compulsion via TAX, however, is wrong. More than two children should just not be rewarded.

i don't need to back up anything, just google 'is global warming a myth' and you'll see hundred of useful links and sources there. I'm a non believer when it comes to believing in 'man made myths on global warming, it's our fault, turn off the lights you'll cut emissions but it won't cut your ELECTRICAL BILLS!' the earth is heating up only because it's natural not our fault. :)
 

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Foxodi said:
The stupidest thing I've ever heard...
Why don't we all get taxed then, because we all contribute to the 'problem' (I'm a skeptic :))
This is getting sillier then the obsession the west had with terriosm... the world is full of fools ....(ok, im going offtopic onto a rant)

no you're right, you should be proud that you're a sceptic and not falling for all the tree huggers and their bloody warnings about global warming and how we're all doomed. just imagine this whole thing taking over ppl's lives, you'll be taxed for just walking to your local shopping mall because they claim you'll produce 17% emissions etc :rofl:
 

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AkaiHanabi said:
why yes that is sad. but global warming is not a myth.
Actually it is.

This obssession with anthropological global warming is ridiculous. I am not convined at all by any of the pseudo-scientific evidence to support this supposition. Sorry, sensationed photographs of polar bears gripping onto floating glacial fragments isn't really fooling me.

To me, anthropological global warming is nothing more than a politically fulled industry that is wasting time and money. If you really want to listen to the 'tee huggers', as Chicky_pie rightly labelled tham, then you can kiss the economy goodbye and go live back in the caveman era.
 

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ccc123 said:
To me, anthropological global warming is nothing more than a politically fulled industry that is wasting time and money. If you really want to listen to the 'tee huggers', as Chicky_pie rightly labelled tham, then you can kiss the economy goodbye and go live back in the caveman era.
"Tree-huggers" are far different to the scientists who are actually doing all the work and coming to these conclusions. Doubting their independently-reached and complementary conclusions is as academically dishonest as taking the conclusions of a small number of scientists as more 'trustworthy' than the disagreeing majority.

True scientists have little political agenda, except when politics hampers their ability to research.
 

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