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    RIP Fidel Castro

    Salutations to the guy who made his country have the best health care and also have one of the highest literacy rates in the World. A lot of people never look at his positive attributes in him such as the love and closeness he held for his people and how much he has done for his country in spite of US embargos and sanctions for decades.

    No street bears his name and there is not a single statue in his honour in Cuba. He never wanted any recognition or cult of personality based around him.

    He survived at least 60 or so assasination atempts and 11 US presidencies in his lifetime, yet died at the good old age of 90.



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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro



    its a shame american propaganda will tarnish his name and legacy and instead focus on the negatives
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeMx View Post

    its a shame american propaganda will tarnish his name and legacy and instead focus on the negatives
    I think Fidel had a mixed legacy, he did some good and some bad. That being said, it always grinds my gears when the US decides to demonise the guy that replaced a far worse dictator which they supported. How I despise American Exceptionalism.
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Who gives a crap his a commie, his an exception. He was a good commie unlike all those others that have ever existed. He stayed true to his values and beliefs in the face of a neo-colonialist nation just miles away. He literally spat on their face despite their threats of invasion.

    Yes he was no pacifist dude like Gandhi or Mandela but nonetheless their common anti-imperialist views and support for the oppressed brings them together. Revolutions are bloody and rarely neat affairs, people fight to maintain their side, where in one way or another everyone fights for their cause. Mistakes happen, infiltrators mess things up, and chaos happens beyond the control of anybody. He chose the poor masses over the upper middle class emigres and their foreign supporters. Others fought on the other side. That's how the world works. So where does that leave us? Practically speaking, which side should one support?

    Btw turned out his sacrastic line he said apparently to a journalist as a joke came out to be true lol. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...a-urban-legend

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    is this a joke

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Simorgh View Post
    Salutations to the guy who made his country have the best health care ... in the World.
    It has a good healthcare system, but I wouldn't call it the best in the world. There are countries with more money spent on health per capita, higher doctor : population ratios, better infant mortality rates etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simorgh
    Btw turned out his sacrastic line he said apparently to a journalist as a joke came out to be true lol.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...a-urban-legend
    The article you linked is literally about how that quote has no reliable source.
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_of_Head View Post
    It has a good healthcare system, but I wouldn't call it the best in the world. There are countries with more money spent on health per capita, higher doctor : population ratios, better infant mortality rates etc.



    The article you linked is literally about how that quote has no reliable source.
    http://www.snopes.com/fidel-castro-prophecy-quote/

    Snopes fact checked it and could not find a reliable source either.
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Good Riddance, if anyone thought this man was a good person, they really need to look back at history... Yes, he did raise a middle finger to US imperialism, but fuck, it was a lot more messy than what it should have been...

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Please don't influence people to like Communism, its only failed what ? 6-8 times , and killed upwards of eighty million ha.

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbles99 View Post
    Please don't influence people to like Communism, its only failed what ? 6-8 times , and killed upwards of eighty million ha.
    capitalism killed more than 1 billion using ur logic



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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    I'm not going to go on an AnCap rant about Capitalism/Corporatism but Capitalism is pragmatic and sensible, Communism is the byproduct of a pauper and his optimistic philosophical thinking - that's all 'placid' Communism is, hope and fiction.

    It has too many requirements to ever work and if those requirements are met, the question becomes how long could it last?
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_of_Head View Post

    The article you linked is literally about how that quote has no reliable source.
    Thats why I said 'apparently' and added the article with its analysis on the quote's reliability.

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by SylviaB View Post
    Have you got anything to back that up apart from a shitty JPEG you took off someone's blog?
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    The picture of Castro is complex. I don't think any of us have enough information to judge him either one way or the other.

    I hate how he adopted Communism after the Bay of Pigs invasion. Besides that think about it a country that once before was one giant casino and resort for American magnates with a lot of wealth and now a poor country previosuly reliant on Soviet aid with low crime rate, good health care and education for all and a strong cultural spirit. Under his rule a million Cubans went into exile and at the same time he killed a lot of opponents who were of course Batista allies after the revolution.

    What is worse? hard...
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Orwell View Post
    that's all 'placid' Communism is, hope and fiction.

    It has too many requirements to ever work and if those requirements are met, the question becomes how long could it last?
    Said the Anarcho-Capitalist?
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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_of_Head View Post
    It has a good healthcare system, but I wouldn't call it the best in the world. There are countries with more money spent on health per capita, higher doctor : population ratios, better infant mortality rates etc.
    Best in the world for a 3rd world country and even better than some 1st world countries, despite having extremely limited resources and economic sanctions imposed by the United States for more than half a century it still has decent heath care for all segments of the population.

    The infant mortality rate in Cuba is lower than it is in the United States and is among the lowest in the world. With a life expectancy of 78 years, Cuba is one of the best performers on the American continent and in the Third World, achieving results similar to those of most developed nations.

    This is to be praised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_of_Head View Post
    Said the Anarcho-Capitalist?
    Anarcho-Capitalism is more sensible and achievable than Communism lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbles99 View Post
    Please don't influence people to like Communism, its only failed what ? 6-8 times , and killed upwards of eighty million ha.
    There so much more to this guy than him being a Communist. Btw I am not even a Communist, just a person who who dislikes neo-colonialist tendencies of the US in particular.

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    "I have crippling depression" -Mahatma Gandhi
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    lol

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Simorgh View Post
    There so much more to this guy than him being a Communist. Btw I am not even a Communist, just a person who who dislikes neo-colonialist tendencies of the US in particular.
    yeah like how he lived like a fucking king when his people were starving. like how his daughter hated him so much she got a fake passport to leave his shithole.

    Funny how the regressive left forgets that communist countries really really didn't like gays and put them to death.

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    being an oppressive dictator who actually oppresses gays is fine as long as you're brown and anti-american

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    Re: RIP Fidel Castro

    why everyone gotta be hating on the gays these days man

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