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    Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

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    Do I need to enrol?
    The postal plebiscite will use the normal electoral roll. That means that if you voted at the last election and you still live at the same address, you will automatically be enrolled to vote next month.

    If you aren’t on the roll or your details are out of date, you have until 6pm on August 24 to get on the AEC website and fix them. That’s two weeks from today.

    Around 14 per cent of young people aged between 18 and 24 are not currently enrolled, according to the latest data from the Australian Electoral Commission.

    Nationally, the percentage of Australians of all ages who are not enrolled is about five percent.

    When are we voting?
    Ballot papers will start arriving in the mail from September 12.

    You will have until November 7 to post them back.

    Is it compulsory?
    No. Unlike the original proposal - in-person plebiscite - the postal vote is not mandatory.

    Advocacy groups are already voicing concerns that voter turnout will be low, and that the results will not be representative.

    But the government says anyone who wants to vote badly enough will be able to figure out the postal system.

    “If they want to be part of the vote, they'll be part of it,” deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce said.

    Some in the gay and lesbian community are calling for a boycott to delegitimise the postal vote. Former High Court judge Michael Kirby, who is himself gay, said he would not be voting, saying the process made him feel like a “second-class” citizen.

    Can I vote online instead?
    No, again.

    The vote will be done entirely through the post, conducted by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), and will not have an online element.

    Labor argues that system will disadvantage young people who are less familiar with stamps and non-electronic forms of mail.

    “Why on earth are we not opening this up to the internet?” asked Labor’s Sam Dastyari.

    “Let's not kid ourselves. That is how [young Australians] participate in politics.”

    But Barnaby Joyce said he was not concerned: “I think young people are just as competent as any other person.”

    Can I vote from overseas?
    Yes. The ABS will post you your ballot as long as you are registered as an overseas voter.

    Do the results matter?
    A final result from the postal poll is expected by November 15.

    But the vote itself cannot legalise same-sex marriage.

    In the event of a 'yes' vote, the government says it will allow a private member's bill to be introduced to the house in the final sitting fortnight of 2017 (the last week of November and the first of December).

    Then members of parliament will be given a free vote, where it is expected to pass.

    Parliamentarians will not be bound by the results of the plebiscite, but many, including some conservatives, have promised to respect the decision of the people even if it goes against their personal beliefs.

    If the people vote "no" in the postal ballot, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said no bill will proceed."

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    You can check your enrolment here:https://check.aec.gov.au/

    You are entitled to vote if you turn 18 before November the 7th.
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    Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    High Court challenges to same-sex marriage survey a 50-50 prospect: Mark Dreyfus

    High Court challenges to the same-sex marriage postal survey have a 50-50 chance of success, according to Labor's legal affairs spokesman, Mark Dreyfus.

    And Mr Dreyfus has suggested a 50 per cent turnout would be a good result for the non-compulsory vote, while urging Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to "put a bit of his shoulder to the wheel here" and campaign for a 'yes' vote.

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    The High Court will consider two similar challenges - one brought by independent MP Andrew Wilkie, the other by Australian Marriage Equality - to the validity of the postal vote on September 5 and 6.

    The parties challenging the validity of the postal survey argue the Turnbull government does not have the authority to appropriate the $122 million in funds for the vote.


    They also claim the Australian Bureau of Statistics does not have the legal authority to conduct the survey.

    "They are strong arguments [brought in the High Court challenge] ... Let's say 50-50," Mr Dreyfus told Insiders.

    "The High Court is taking it seriously. There is an argument that says that there needs to be legislative authorisation before you can go out and spend $122 million of public money, and there isn't any legislative authorisation.


    "And there's an argument that this is beyond power for the Australian Bureau of Statistics, under its legislation, to carry out this kind of very unusual activity.

    "Let's hope for it to be more than 50 per cent [turnout] ... it's not going to have much worth if it's only 10 per cent or 15 per cent of people participating."

    Mr Dreyfus also said Labor would examine laws the government has proposed that would subject the campaign to the usual electoral rules, including protections against malicious publications and bribery, which do not currently apply because the ABS is conducting the survey.

    There are early indications that senior Turnbull government ministers, including the prime minister, plan to restrict their campaigning on same-sex marriage - either for a 'yes' or 'no' vote - to their own electorates, rather than using the national platform available to them.

    Cabinet minister Josh Frydenberg appeared to confirm that approach on Sky News, saying he wanted a 'yes' vote and would be encouraging people in his electorate to vote that way.

    "But when it comes to my broader position in terms of campaigning on this issue, I've got bigger fish to fry and that is energy policy and that will be my priority in the weeks and the months ahead," he said.

    In contrast, Mr Dreyfus said: "I can understand why some people are simply disgusted, particularly in the LGBTI community, disgusted about this process that has been foisted on Australians ... If we must have this process, let's make sure it's a resounding 'yes'. I'll be voting 'yes', I will be campaigning for 'yes' and my colleagues are going to be campaigning for 'yes'".

    City of Sydney City Liberal councillor Christine Forster, a vocal campaigner for a 'yes' vote and sister of former prime minister Tony Abbott, told Sky News that Australia's "culture of compulsory voting" would lead to a good turnout despite it being voluntary - but a close result would mean questions remained about legitimacy of the vote.

    "There are sections of the Labor Party that are staunchly opposed to same-sex marriage. And it would open a real can of worms for the Labor Party if there was a resounding 'no' vote," she said.

    "If there were, I think the Labor Party's position would be extraordinarily difficult in pursuing their commitment to pass legislation ... that is my worst nightmare."

    Labor has, however, promised it will legalise same-sex marriage when it is next in office - regardless of the postal survey result.

    The key dates for the plebiscite are September 12, when the ABS begins posting out ballots; November 7, when responses have to be received and November 15, when the result will be announced.

    Australians have until August 24 to enrol or update their details with the Australian Electoral Commission.

    Source:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...12-gxv11r.html
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    It's complete nonsense - Im not familiar with the legalities but I wouldn't be surprised if the liberals instituted the postal vote because they know it wont survive a court challenge. Plebiscite, postal plebiscite or nothing, these are just stalling tactics. Even if the no vote prevails, this issue wont go away. Gay marriage is inevitable - if I were the "No" lobby, Id try to get the law passed on friendlier terms because a Labour Government instituting this policy wont care for religious protections.
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    What's the point? It's not even legally binding. Just a waste of taxpayers money.
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    Quote Originally Posted by si2136 View Post
    What's the point? It's not even legally binding. Just a waste of taxpayers money.
    It's just to satisfy the conservative/religious wing of the Liberal Party, nothing more. The No campaign really doesnt have much justification for their views beyond "I dont agree with it". Gay marriage isnt being forced upon people so I dont see the issue. I dont like Green Tea, but I wouldnt support a law banning it (unless I was being forced to drink it).
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    Voting register closes tomorrow, sign up now if you haven't already!
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    gonna be like trump and brexit No will win
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeMx View Post
    gonna be like trump and brexit No will win
    I agree, however, I do think irrespective of the outcome, gay marriage is inevitable. Ultimately, I think success for the No campaign could prove to be a Pyrrhic victory. If gay marriage is enacted now, the No campaign could push for religious protections. However, the churches (who ultimately are the main drivers of the no campaign) are slowly losing their influence and if it take to long, they may lack the political capital needed to push for religious protections when SSM becomes law in the future.

    I really do think that the churches are making a mistake backing the No campaign. Beyond the theological issues with the churches stance on gay marriage (the bible is far from clear cut), the churches risk further damaging their reputation. Most churches in Australia are in decline and it is most evident amongst young people (who are the strongest SSM supporters). By standing in the way of SSM, the church is really impeding its ability to reach out to this demographic, because it largely reinforces the belief amongst young people that religion is backwards and archaic. Add that to all the sex abuse controversy, it really does spell trouble for their ability to grow and develop. As Frank Underwood says, "Dont fight wars you cant win and never raise a flag for an asinine cause". Honestly, the best stance for the churches would be to say "Personally, we dont agree, but we welcome all people and hope that our members vote with their conscience".
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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    In b4 mail votes get intercepted

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    Re: Individuals have till August 24th to sign up to vote in the postal plebiscite

    send me cheques for $50 instead of this if youre going to the post office

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