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    Board Of Studies reveals raw marks - 2003

    For the first time in 2003, the Board Of Studies has revealed the raw marks for these particular subjects. A request for raw band cut-offs marks was initially declined, though in future it may be revealed. 

    NB: Raw marks are not comparable between years or between courses.

    <table width=66% cellpadding=2>
    <tr><td><font size=2>2003 Board Developed Courses<td width=20% align=center colspan=2><font size=2>Total Weighted<br>Mark<td width=20% align=center colspan=2><font size=2>Aligned Exam<br>Mark
    <tr><td><font size="2">Chemistry</font><td align=right><font size="2">61/100</font><td width=6%><td align=right><font size="2">79/100</font><td width=6%>
    <tr><td><font size=2>English (Advanced)</font><td align=right><font size="2">73/100</font><td><td align=right><font size="2">82/100</font><td>
    <tr><td><font size=2>Mathematics</font><td align=right><font size="2">73/120</font><td><td align=right><font size="2">82/100</font><td>
    <tr><td><font size=2>Mathematics Extension 1</font><td align=right><font size="2">11/84</font><td><td align=right><font size="2">17/50</font><td>
    <tr><td><font size=2>Physics</font><td align=right><font size=2>56/100</font><td><td align=right><font size="2">78/100</font><td>
    <tr><td><font size="2">Software Design and Development</font><td align=right><font size=2>59/100<td><td align=right><font size="2">79/100</font><td>
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    2003 UAI - 84.65
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    If this is the first time raw marks have been revealed for 2003 and Lazarus' for 2001 - when people compare raw, aligned and scaled are they being less than truthful - or are there other ways of finding out raws - averages etc.?
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    lol, that means I got less than 73 for my 79 in english
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    Originally posted by Zarathustra
    If this is the first time raw marks have been revealed for 2003 and Lazarus' for 2001 - when people compare raw, aligned and scaled are they being less than truthful - or are there other ways of finding out raws - averages etc.?
    No other raw marks are available, so it generally means they've mixed them up.
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    Hey same mark in English Ragerunner!!

    BTW, Did you get your thirty or so dollars back?
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    Originally posted by santaslayer
    Hey same mark in English Ragerunner!!

    BTW, Did you get your thirty or so dollars back?
    No. I presume that was used as the processing fee for retreiving my marks.
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    Crap. i study my arse off for chem and got 79 in exam. turns out my hard work only earn me a 61....

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    Originally posted by Survivor39
    Crap. i study my arse off for chem and got 79 in exam. turns out my hard work only earn me a 61....
    It's naive comments like this which cause the Board to hide the data in the first place.

    You didn't 'only' get a 61 - your raw mark is not your 'real' mark. If you don't understand the relationship between raw marks and aligned marks and what sort of meaning can and can't be assigned to each of them, create a thread with a request for assistance.
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    Is it possible for people with different raw marks to get the same aligned mark eg. if the person with a lower raw mark got harder questions right

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    Originally posted by acmilan1987
    Is it possible for people with different raw marks to get the same aligned mark eg. if the person with a lower raw mark got harder questions right
    Although Im not sure about your specific example it is possible and is necessary (at least the reported marks) for subjects like maths where there is 120 marks and only 100 spots to put them in.

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    But that's only due to rounding - otherwise, the answer is no.
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    what about the opposite where two poeple with the same raw mark can get different aligned marks?

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    That only occurs in 2U English, where one student is taking Standard and the other is taking Advanced.

    In every other course, the same raw mark will result in the same aligned mark and the same scaled mark.
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    get a high mark and your final mark will still be an indication of your hardwork in regards to teh rest of the state.

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    well thats great news to finally see some raw marks - cant wait to tell some of my friends...anyway its a pity that they didnt release raw marks for maths ext 2 or economics or the miriad of other subjects out there...oh well the ones on the list get scaled up and i do a few of those courses...possibly wishful thinking but it does boost my confidence a bit...oh one last thing are the raw/scaled marks in the same ratio? i.e. if a raw mark of 73 in english is translated to a scaled mark of 82 does that mean if you got a scaled mark of 79 your raw mark was 70? just curious.
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    Cheers for sharing Ragerunner

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    alrite, can someone do a uai prediction based on these exam marks. THankyou. I need 99 UAI to get into the course i need to do.

    adv English : 77/105
    Physics: 87/100 (Independant paper)
    Chemistry: 94/100 (NEAP)
    Biology 96/100 (NEAP)
    Maths 3unit 79/84 (Independant)
    Maths 4 unit 85/120 (Western Regions)

    Thankyou
    Last edited by budj; 14 Sep 2004 at 5:21 AM. Reason: Miscalculation
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    This thread is not the appropriate place to post predictions - please start a new thread in the Guidance & Counsel forum.
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    Dont you think thats a little far fetched.. I mean that means if I get say 85 as my raw mark for Physics ill b close to 100 alligned mark ?!?! caus thats about the raw mark im aiming for and i thought that would give me mebbe high 80's - low 90's

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    A raw mark of 60 may not align equally with a raw mark of 80.

    i.e. a 60 may align to 75. a 80 may only align to 87
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    How can u get ur raw marks?

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    It was attained via a FOI (Freedom of Information) application submitted to the board of studies.

    There's also a $30 processing fee if you wish to request it.
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    What is the Total Weighted Mark???

    Is Total Weighted Mark=Raw Mark=The mark you get for the exam you sit on the day??

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcattle
    What is the Total Weighted Mark???

    Is Total Weighted Mark=Raw Mark=The mark you get for the exam you sit on the day??
    That is correct.
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    but how is SDD scales better than Chemistry??

    when you input 79 into SAM for both SDD and chemistry, 76.4 of Chemistry will be contributed to the UAI, whereas for SDD only 62.6 will be contributed??
    Last edited by smallcattle; 4 Oct 2004 at 6:19 PM.

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