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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    So has simple harmonic motion been transferred from MX1 to MX2? I can see it in the latter but not in the former on the post on the previous page (though it could be 'hidden' amongst the MX1 topics).

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    It seems to just be in ME2 now.

    But of more concern is that it seems to be based on 2 disasters: - 1. the national curriculum - and 2. the shelved drafts from 2008

    Bill Pender wrote about both disasters in 2 separate documents:

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/educa...912-156zy.html

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    http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/fouruni...Submission.pdf

    So if that's all it's based on then the end result could be a "disaster squared" so to speak.

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    I'm glad I got out of my HSC without touching statistics...

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by leehuan View Post
    I'm glad I got out of my HSC without touching statistics...
    Don't you want to do actuarial and adv math at unsw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekman View Post
    Don't you want to do actuarial and adv math at unsw?
    Yeah, I don't mind stats now but back then I hated the crap out of it.

    Literally, watching the general 2 students do easy statistics at the end of the year was my catalyst of change. Obviously actuarial isn't going to be anywhere as close as that in difficulty but still. Back in Yr 11 if someone mentioned statistics I would've flipped.
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    I went to the consultation today at Croydon Park. They talked mostly about structure and assessment. Not much on content, but statistics did get a mention.

    Then we broke into groups and gave feedback on some sheets that had some questions. I'll post the questions up later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tywebb View Post
    I went to the consultation today at Croydon Park. They talked mostly about structure and assessment. Not much on content, but statistics did get a mention.

    Then we broke into groups and gave feedback on some sheets that had some questions. I'll post the questions up later.
    Please do when you get the time. I am interested to hear what the current thinking on these changes from other teachers is.

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    OK. Here are the questions used at the consultation meeting.

    First we had the option to submit as individual or as a group.

    Mathematics General 2 and Mathematics General 1 Draft Writing Brief

    Please circle: Individual or group

    1. What is your preferred option? Please comment on your preference.

    2. The revision of the status of the current HSC Mathematics General 1 CEC to make the course a Board Developed Course ( with an optional HSC examination) is/is not appropriate. Please provide reasons for your answer.

    3. If changes to the Mathematics ("2 Unit") course are required to achieve "significant overlap" with the Mathematics General 2 course, a greater level of revision of the Mathematics General 2 course to align with the changes is/is not appropriate. Please provide reasons for your answer.

    4. The development of a new Preliminary Mathematics General course designed to strengthen students' numeracy skills by consolidating and building on student knowledge and skills from Stage 5.1 is/is not appropriate. Please provide reasons for your answer.

    5. Is there another course structure or modification that BOSTES should consider?

    6. Please provide feedback on school-based assessment requirements for these courses.

    7. Please provide feedback on HSC examination specification for these courses.

    Mathematics, Extension 1 & Extension 2 Draft Writing Brief.

    Please circle: Individual or group

    1. What is your preferred option? Please comment on your preference.

    2. The proposed approach to examining the Mathematics ("2 Unit") course is/is not appropriate as a means of encouraging students to study the course most appropriate for their abilities and aspirations. Please provide reasons for your answer.

    3. The proposed approach to examining the "2 Unit" course is/is not sufficient as a means of encouraging students to study the course most appropriate for their abilities and aspirations.

    4. The proposed approach to structuring ("significant overlap" with Mathematics General 2) and examining the "2 Unit" course are/ are not both necessary as a means of encouraging students to study the course most appropriate for their abilities and aspirations.

    5. The inclusion of the study of statistics in the "2 Unit" Mathematics and/or Mathematics Extension 2 courses is/is not appropriate.

    6. Is there another course structure or modification that BOSTES should consider?

    7. Please provide feedback on school-based assessment requirements for these courses.

    8. Please provide feedback on HSC examination specifications for these courses.
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by tywebb View Post
    Goodbye to the many easy-marks questions. Be careful what you wish for.
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    Holy shit, they literally give you every formula u need. What has maths come to
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by DatAtarLyfe View Post
    What has maths come to


    Well it comes to this:

    I might write an Extension 1 exam with just 1 question:

    Prove all the formulas on the formula sheet.
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by DatAtarLyfe View Post
    Holy shit, they literally give you every formula u need. What has maths come to
    Doesn't make a difference except they'll probably stop asking Q's like 'calculate the angle between these two lines', since those were just a test of memory and substitution (if they ask it now, it'll just be a test of substitution...or maybe they will ask these Q's, like the HSC Science calculations; but probably not too many of those Q's).

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    The fact that so many things are now blatantly thrown at people makes me wonder:
    a) Must you have some competency in interpreting the English language to answer questions like general
    b) Are they gonna actually increase the difficulty of the questions drastically

    And I wanna see the 2016 paper now. Even if it's 2015.

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    If someone was to take the extension 1 exam does this mean that the 2u reference sheet is also provided or is only the extension sheet provided?
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by laters View Post
    If someone was to take the extension 1 exam does this mean that the 2u reference sheet is also provided or is only the extension sheet provided?
    Same reference sheet for 2u, 3u and 4u.
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Who's idea was it to introduce a reference sheet for all math levels including and above 2U in the first place??

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    I do not like this change at all. How hard is it to remember formulas? ffs.
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    Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Where are the equations for projectile motion? These are the ones everyone asks whether they should derive or quote.

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by Drongoski View Post
    Goodbye to the many easy-marks questions. Be careful what you wish for.
    If that happens I wouldn't mind this because it allows room for more problem solving style questions. I'd much rather students lose marks due to lack of problem solving abilities than for incorrectly recalling a formula. Of course not every formula is on that sheet (esp for Ext2) so there is still an element of recall required.

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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by Rathin View Post
    I do not like this change at all. How hard is it to remember formulas? ffs.
    How hard is it? Not too hard. Time consuming? Yes. Very time consuming. This will allow for time spent doing more valuable things than rote learning formulas. What do you gain from it anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop21 View Post
    How hard is it? Not too hard. Time consuming? Yes. Very time consuming. This will allow for time spent doing more valuable things than rote learning formulas. What do you gain from it anyway?
    why would you need to rote learn formulas? when you practice questions it will stick to your long term memory.
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Quote Originally Posted by Rathin View Post
    why would you need to rote learn formulas? when you practice questions it will stick to your long term memory.
    Because my brain isn't a super machine that picks what it decides to forget / retain over the years.

    "I do not like this change at all."

    If it's no big deal for you why are you complaining? I'll also say that there are a lot more formulae you must remember in year 12 vs. year 10...
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    Re: Announcement from BOSTES - significant change to calculus courses

    Um, whilst you're entitled to your opinion, I'll voice mine as well.

    It doesn't matter... I did 2U in Yr 10 and learnt all of them. :x

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