How do we determine our aligned marks?

[peeasoup]

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So your HSC mark always gets scaled down. Like, if all my assesment averages are 60's, and i get 80's and 90's in my hsc, then im fucked. I dont like the sounds of it.
Watever happened to hsc marks getting scaled up. Like, my sisters 2 unit mark was scaled up to about 70 from a fail, in her hsc. And she had done pretty crap all year.

[kymoie]

Does anyone else notice that SAM is going to be VERY busy on the 20th of December?

[jm1234567890]

Originally Posted by kymoie

Does anyone else notice that SAM is going to be VERY busy on the 20th of December?

you can always have a look at JUAIseek instead of SAM, so not as much bandwidth is consumed

[kymoie]

Wasn't someone saying SAM was better than JUAIseek?

[jm1234567890]

well, the difference is generally negligible

yeah, but use SAM if possible

[davidmenz]

ok i heard that on the 12th of dec we get out assesment mark is this true and if we do is it reliable to type into SAM to get an approx UAI???
thanks

[jm1234567890]

Originally Posted by davidmenz

ok i heard that on the 12th of dec we get out assesment mark is this true and if we do is it reliable to type into SAM to get an approx UAI???
thanks

no, but it is as reliable as you can expect....

+/- 0.5 UAI for most marks

prolly +/- 0.1 for UAI above 90

[yeders]

i think its tons hard to work out all the stuff, i think im just gona wait till the 17th, and then wheneva we get our uai and then see... shall b interresting, cuz i really have no idea

[Pixydust*]

[quote=warlivoecks]ITS IMPOSSIBLE IT ALLIGN UR MARK!!!!

my friend who got 99 last yr got an english adv assessment mark of 62, and a hsc exam mark of 97..that brought her "alligned mark" or actual mark to 93. Hence if u did shit all year, THERE IS STILL HOPE!!

I'm sorry, but do you mean she had an overall assessment mark of 62 (over the whole year) or just one assessment that got a mark of 62? It's just that i'm aiming for a UAI of roughly 99.8 and my English results sorta arn't adding up, like, they are averaging around 80...

[a8o]

Originally Posted by yeders

i think its tons hard to work out all the stuff, i think im just gona wait till the 17th, and then wheneva we get our uai and then see... shall b interresting, cuz i really have no idea

Garbage in, garbage out I guess.

[Fady]

i was jst enquiring to anyone who reallly understands the system. If my rank was last in particular subjects, but all students were ver close, and we all have reletivly good marks, what happens to the last place student???? Also if i was to be achieving 30% in for eg maths, and i get in the 80's in the HSC, what would happen to my marks?????

[jm1234567890]

Originally Posted by Fady

i was jst enquiring to anyone who reallly understands the system. If my rank was last in particular subjects, but all students were ver close, and we all have reletivly good marks, what happens to the last place student???? Also if i was to be achieving 30% in for eg maths, and i get in the 80's in the HSC, what would happen to my marks?????

The last placed student will get the lowest HSC Exam mark as their School assessment mark.

I don't understand your 2nd question...
your getting 30% in you school exams? And then you want to know what happens if you get 80% in the HSC exam?
Well all I can say if who know what will happen.... But you will have to work mighty hard to improve your marks. I guess you'll have a better idea after your trials.

[A l]

Originally Posted by Fady

i was jst enquiring to anyone who reallly understands the system. If my rank was last in particular subjects, but all students were ver close, and we all have reletivly good marks, what happens to the last place student???? Also if i was to be achieving 30% in for eg maths, and i get in the 80's in the HSC, what would happen to my marks?????

Assessment tasks DO matter. However, the moderating process relies on ranks in both the external and internal assessments to alter marks. Your rank in the external exam within the school may be different to your rank in the school assessment tasks. If that is the case, then things start to get complicated.
Remember that chances are, that the moderating process would alter the original marks that the school submits.

Originally Posted by peeasoup

So your HSC mark always gets scaled down. Like, if all my assesment averages are 60's, and i get 80's and 90's in my hsc, then im fucked. I dont like the sounds of it.
Watever happened to hsc marks getting scaled up. Like, my sisters 2 unit mark was scaled up to about 70 from a fail, in her hsc. And she had done pretty crap all year.

ALIGNED MARKS ARE NOT USED FOR THE SCALING PROCESS!!!! I cannot emphasise this enough. In scaling the RAW MARKS are used. In most cases, these are lower than the ALIGNED marks. Since these marks are lower than the aligned marks, then the "scaling up" or the "scaling down" can apply.
The Board does not release these marks to the public, probably in fear that people would jump to ridiculous conclusions about the scaling of marks and pick subjects because they are scaled up.
Either way, when it comes to scaling, RANKS matter, NOT MARKS.

[archangel leila]

Originally Posted by davidmenz

ok i heard that on the 12th of dec we get out assesment mark is this true and if we do is it reliable to type into SAM to get an approx UAI???
thanks

I DO know that your internal ranks and internal assessment marks that the school submits to board of studies can be viewed at studentsonline.nsw.edu.au from 4pm November 11 til sometime in january...

[kylz_kute]

im a little lost guys im only new to the site and find it useful so far but i can work out my allied marks but know that im in bands 4/5 and 5/6 for my corses if i use an average for these bands based on my marks so far could it still give me rough idea about my UAI???
hope so im aiming for 70 or more lol being realistic