TOTAPS Q's

valentino · 20 Jul 2004, 2:55 AM

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Hi does any one know if TOTAPS is used for both soft tissue injures and HArd tissue injuries or just Hard tisue injuries?? thank u

KylieR · 20 Jul 2004, 9:31 AM

Just hard tissue... RICER is used for soft tissue. (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation, Referal [or can be RICED, with Doctor instead of Referal])

barbie_doll · 21 Jul 2004, 9:17 AM

i know that RICER and RICED are practically the same thing, but if all the textbooks say to use RICER and we all know RICED as well, which one do we use?

or do we just apply which ever to the appropriate question...?

mr_speedy · 21 Jul 2004, 10:01 AM

hehe it doesnt matter.... referal means go to a doctor. so i dont think there is any difference.

KylieR · 24 Jul 2004, 2:33 PM

Well I was taught to use RICER... I only RICED from the Red Cross First Aid book.

mr_speedy · 25 Jul 2004, 3:50 AM

it doesnt matter, as withoutwings said ricer=riced

rachella · 26 Jul 2004, 2:44 AM

I have to disagree with the first reply...TOTAPS is used for both soft and hard tissue injuries. It is the assessment of injuries and you do it before treatment of both soft and hard tissue injuries. RICER is used for treatment of soft tissue injuries, and for hard tissue injuries, our teacher said we should know the treatment for them as immobilisation and medical treatment, but also DRABC- danger, response, airway, breathing, circulation

KylieR · 26 Jul 2004, 3:43 AM

What the heck are you going on about??

TOTAPS

T- Talk

O- Observe

T- Touch

A- Active movement

P- Passive movement

S- Skills test.

It is the process that an athlete is meant to go through before returning to competition after a hard tissue injury.

TheKing · 29 Jul 2004, 2:20 PM

i agreee with kylier....
and also, DRABC is really only necessary for unconscious people well the ABC part anyway

TheKing · 6 Aug 2004, 2:51 PM

i was merely stating in words what everyone was thinking....

ViolentJ · 7 Aug 2004, 5:24 AM

TOTAPS is used when an athlete is injured regardless of if it is soft or hard tissue. The aims of totaps are to observe the extent of the injury and to determine if the player is fit to return to competition or if further medical treatment is required. From here we can go on to using RICER and various other methods of injury management.

Laus86 · 7 Aug 2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by valentino

Hi does any one know if TOTAPS is used for both soft tissue injures and HArd tissue injuries or just Hard tisue injuries?? thank u

TOTAPS is like what you do before any injury management procedure. It's assessing the injury itself so then u can decide what procedure to take from then on. It's mainly used if you're not sure how bad an injury is-hence the skills test at the end to see if the athlete's ok to return to play.

twism012 · 10 Oct 2004, 4:50 AM

I've gotta agree that TOTAPS is for both hard and soft tissue... it's the RTP.. Return To Play acronym, while RICER/D is for injury management.. which is also useful for both hard and soft...

Does anyone actuallly know exactly what the difference is between soft and hard tissue injuries??

blacmajic · 10 Oct 2004, 1:54 PM

Yeah, TOTAPS is for both soft and hard. Soft isnt just briusing and abraisons, its also sprained ankles and the like, for which you would use TOTAPS to asses the injury and whether thay can go back on court.

porge · 10 Oct 2004, 4:23 PM

RICER/RICED

to clear things up, R is preffered as a doctor is not always neccessary, it is now possinble to seek assisance from a physio rather then a doctor.. thats why it changed

20 Jul 2004, 2:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
valentino Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 38 Last Activity: 27 Oct 2004, 8:27 PM	TOTAPS Q's You can hide this advertisement by registering. Hi does any one know if TOTAPS is used for both soft tissue injures and HArd tissue injuries or just Hard tisue injuries?? thank u

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barbie_doll Junior Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Female Location: In a grassy field... Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39 Last Activity: 17 Mar 2006, 2:10 PM	i know that RICER and RICED are practically the same thing, but if all the textbooks say to use RICER and we all know RICED as well, which one do we use? or do we just apply which ever to the appropriate question...? __________________ ------------------------- ~ Class of 2004 ~ "Have no fear of perfection--you'll never reach it." -Salvador Dali- "Life was so much easier when your clothes didn't match and boys had cooties!" -Unknown-

26 Jul 2004, 2:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
rachella New Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Last Activity: 27 Jul 2004, 3:15 AM	Totaps I have to disagree with the first reply...TOTAPS is used for both soft and hard tissue injuries. It is the assessment of injuries and you do it before treatment of both soft and hard tissue injuries. RICER is used for treatment of soft tissue injuries, and for hard tissue injuries, our teacher said we should know the treatment for them as immobilisation and medical treatment, but also DRABC- danger, response, airway, breathing, circulation

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TheKing Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 184 Last Activity: 13 Jan 2005, 2:14 PM	i agreee with kylier.... and also, DRABC is really only necessary for unconscious people well the ABC part anyway Last edited by Without Wings; 30 Jul 2004 at 12:28 AM. Reason: rude and uncalled for - be polite!

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20 Jul 2004, 9:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
KylieR Senior Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Female Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 239 Last Activity: 12 Sep 2008, 10:28 PM	Just hard tissue... RICER is used for soft tissue. (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation, Referal [or can be RICED, with Doctor instead of Referal])

21 Jul 2004, 10:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
mr_speedy its called karma baby HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 643 Last Activity: 3 Jan 2007, 6:51 PM	hehe it doesnt matter.... referal means go to a doctor. so i dont think there is any difference.

24 Jul 2004, 2:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
KylieR Senior Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Female Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 239 Last Activity: 12 Sep 2008, 10:28 PM	Well I was taught to use RICER... I only RICED from the Red Cross First Aid book.

25 Jul 2004, 3:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
mr_speedy its called karma baby HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 643 Last Activity: 3 Jan 2007, 6:51 PM	it doesnt matter, as withoutwings said ricer=riced

26 Jul 2004, 3:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
KylieR Senior Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Female Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 239 Last Activity: 12 Sep 2008, 10:28 PM	What the heck are you going on about?? TOTAPS T- Talk O- Observe T- Touch A- Active movement P- Passive movement S- Skills test. It is the process that an athlete is meant to go through before returning to competition after a hard tissue injury.

6 Aug 2004, 2:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
TheKing Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 184 Last Activity: 13 Jan 2005, 2:14 PM	i was merely stating in words what everyone was thinking....

7 Aug 2004, 5:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
ViolentJ Uncle Banger HSC: 2004 Gender: Undisclosed Location: Gosford Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 111 Last Activity: 14 Sep 2006, 2:53 PM	TOTAPS is used when an athlete is injured regardless of if it is soft or hard tissue. The aims of totaps are to observe the extent of the injury and to determine if the player is fit to return to competition or if further medical treatment is required. From here we can go on to using RICER and various other methods of injury management.

10 Oct 2004, 4:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
twism012 New Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Male Location: Penriff Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5 Last Activity: 7 Feb 2007, 12:21 PM	I've gotta agree that TOTAPS is for both hard and soft tissue... it's the RTP.. Return To Play acronym, while RICER/D is for injury management.. which is also useful for both hard and soft... Does anyone actuallly know exactly what the difference is between soft and hard tissue injuries??

10 Oct 2004, 1:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
blacmajic Assistant Member HSC: N/A Gender: Female Location: Randwick Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 55 Last Activity: 19 Dec 2004, 8:40 PM	Yeah, TOTAPS is for both soft and hard. Soft isnt just briusing and abraisons, its also sprained ankles and the like, for which you would use TOTAPS to asses the injury and whether thay can go back on court.

10 Oct 2004, 4:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
porge sorry, you've missed me HSC: N/A Gender: Female Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 256 Last Activity: 30 Jan 2005, 9:53 AM	RICER/RICED to clear things up, R is preffered as a doctor is not always neccessary, it is now possinble to seek assisance from a physio rather then a doctor.. thats why it changed