2006 poets!

[johnspoon]

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I'm doing my poetry on the processes of a mind with a depressive illness. Ironically though I've been too down to write.. downer than ever before. I hope I can survive this year. Goodluck y'all.

[shimmy&shine]

Originally Posted by johnspoon

I'm doing my poetry on the processes of a mind with a depressive illness. Ironically though I've been too down to write.. downer than ever before. I hope I can survive this year. Goodluck y'all.

Hey john,

is Spoon really your last name? or nick name or... doesn't matter. Laugh at this, please!

aww, don't be too down to write, you'll be fine. how has your poetry been going?

Depression: that's a tricky, and difficult concept. have you read 'Hawk from a Handsaw'. That deals with, i think, schizophrenia?

Don't lose hope, and read silly, funny cartoons to make you smile (am i being too naive?). Keep writing poetry, it's healthy for the soul.

Good luck.

[shimmy&shine]

Originally Posted by Katie :)

anyway I've been told that my writing is too poetic to be labelled as "prose poetry", but it isn't like the generic poetry I've read so far (I took the advice of "shimmy and shine" and read widely. Though I very much enjoyed how poets such as Plath, Auden, Stevenson, Stevie smith etc. write, I don't want my poems to be so constrained (for want of a better word).

don't think constrained was the right word. Maybe 'compressed'? But hasn't that been a perrenial quality in poetry, doesn't that 'define' poetry? Poems demand multiple readings, unlike basic prose, and not having the essence of 'compression', to me personally, doesn't work fairly well as poetry.

To some, poetry is seen as a form of language, that has to be decoded, in one aspect. A concoction of rhythms, sounds, techniques, choice of language, syntax, is what poetry is. Reading it out aloud slowly, with a certain pace, taking in each contributing element of the poem, that the poet has worked very hard on. This is why poems usually have to go through 10 to 100 drafts. It has to be 'chiselled' in one sense and 'sculptored' in another.

But then again, this is your work, with your voice, style, and flair. You dictate what defines your poetry, as poets do, and you may be even breaking new grounds.

Poetry is so confusing sometimes!

I challenge someone to give me a PERONSAL definition if 'Poetry'.

[phatchance]

I am at the point where I can criticise others, because I am far better than everyone I have ever met, if you were at the stage of awesomeness I inhabit, you also would understand the merits of harsh criticism.

Sage Francis, now there is a fucking poet; seriously, if you have not heard any Sage Francis's music/spoken word then I suggest you do so, he's the most incredible spoken word lyricist since... well, pretty much every other individual (other than myself) who has ever engaged in spoken word is shit.

I would also suggest fledgling poets look toward the work of newer, more progressive artists, such as Slug from Atmosphere, Brother Ali, even to some extent someone like Pressure from the Hilltop Hoods (on tracks like Stopping all stations/What the Seasons change). Orthodox hip-hop artists are making the kind of poetry, with the kind of understanding of rhythm, cadence and rhyme-techniques, that histories great poets couldn't even dream of. Yet hip-hop is raped by commercial interests and R'n'B/gangster arseholes who can't even rhyme to a beat, where are the postmodern deconstructions of Left Foot Right Foot? where are the Critical Responses on The Revolutionary Volume II? I'll tell you where, nowhere, because all these so called poets are simply riding a bandwagon with no idea.

www.myspace.com/naturalcausescrew

poetry in motion like BLAOW.

The day I see one of these modern 'poets' rock some multi-syllables rhyme schemes, is the day you have taken my criticism on board and thus are still not thinking for yourself.

Pretty much you are all fucked, sorry.

[phatchance]

I am half joking, I enjoy the work of people like Keats.

But on the real, prose poetry in the year 2006 is pretty lame; at least go the bee-bop direction.

[666_blessings]

The markers don't know what they are or aren't into. All HSC marking is done via the dartboard method.

[Katie :)]

Re: titles, I want something like the "love, ghosts and nose hair" written by steven herrick. it has to have the alien in there somewhere... I am thinking along the lines of the following:
Medusa and the alien
pretend friends and aliens
spinning dreams and aliens

any suggestions?

[666_blessings]

Of the three titles you've given, I like 'pretend friends and aliens'. It just sounds so cute ^^

[Katie :)]

Originally Posted by 666_blessings

Of the three titles you've given, I like 'pretend friends and aliens'. It just sounds so cute ^^

- it's funny I forgot that I posted it and I chose it the next day from my list of possibles, so I am glad that it is the one you liked too

[emily_lestrange]

Originally Posted by shimmy&shine

thanks emily.
Do you want to send each other a few poems?

Mine explores the life, works, cycles, ambiguities, pivotal moments, relationships etc of Plath.
I'm writing a suite of poems, in chronological order that reflects many facets of her life, that accumulates to an elegy at the end.

Not that my ideas and poems are that original or brilliant, but I'm hesitant to say much more.

I think motifs, and connectiveness that strings the poems (in a suite) together, are really important for good marks. I'm using the moon, roses, medusa, mother / Daddy, suicide, Hughes, journal entries, and so on.

Emily, your concepts of famlies, and different types of families sounds great. Wow, things like incest would be really challenging, but then again, I have to write about suicide, and try to write Plath with her multi-personality self. Argh, but when we finish it, it's a good feeling!

That would be good, my email is emilylestrange@bigpond.com... if you send me some i wil send some back..

Thanks..

[kami]

Its usually in the last week of August, however there is a major work submission timetable on the board of studies website if you want to take a looksie.

[broken_jukebox]

Originally Posted by shimmy&shine

Brilliant! That's is sure to win a publishing deal. The well-controlled syntax, enjambment, ultilising all the free verse techniques with awareness, the accumulation of imagery that aims to intensify, and of course the genius personification of the 'red rose' brings painful clarity!
Well done! 10/10

TEEN ANGST

[broken_jukebox]

Originally Posted by phatchance

Now it is my turn;

Short dramatically paused statement!
followedsomewhatincoherentlyby -
rushed - yet -stut-t-tered statement;
alittle bit of alliteration builds the awesome base for blatant;
stealing of other peoples concepts

AND YET! hark, perhaps if I entwine my words;
with lengthy prose and maybe some,
soft sifted sleepy first;
followed by second rhyme scheme once;

or twice. I will have the formula -
THE FORMULA? the formula!
for repetition, downright despicable;
somewhat manic, always predictable;

boring, based on someone elses work;
extension II.

What do you guys think?

SUPURB CHANCE, SUPURB, BUT REMEMBER THESE KIDS NEED SOME CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM... OR ELSE:

[rific]

It's been quite a while since I've wandered into this forum... sigh, the memories. A little light fun for you all, if you've the inclination, I Could Be a Poet by Taylor Mali. "The the impotence of proofreading" is also a bit of fun.

From what I've read, you all seem to have a decent handle on what you're doing, congrats, keep it up. Just think, not long now and you can all write just for personal pleasure. And perhaps the occasional commission.

[pork]

hey, well pretty much i just found this site, and am i annoyed i didn't earlier - just one question, maybe two, how long, in general are peoples majors? and how closed to finished are they?
cheers guys