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Old 30 Apr 2004, 11:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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im basically writing 14 poems in free verse...is all i can do... i cant force a style onto my work...but then again im doubting my poetic ability completely!
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Old 1 May 2004, 10:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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im basically writing 14 poems in free verse...is all i can do... i cant force a style onto my work...but then again im doubting my poetic ability completely!


I'm doing 20 poems in a mixture of styles....

It'd be harder to force a style onto your work if your doing a theme that's very personal to you...if you detach yourself to an extent then you may be more open to different styles that could improve the asthetic nature of your work

- i'm not saying that you shouldn't stick to all free verse - free verse rocks - but if you experiment with different styles of presenting your theme, it can in some cases enhance the meaning...like for example if you were writing a poem about an object and rendered the poetry in the shape of that object....

It may also earn you more marks...if you indicate that free verse is you comfort zone and the examiners see that you have pushed yourself as a writer by stepping outside ur square (so to speak).......

everyone doubts their poetic ability at times! keep ya head up - you wouldn't have picked poetry if you didn't think you could do it......


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what do you mean by style?

do you mean structure/form?


free verse tends to do better than rhyme because most of the time, rhyme is forced
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Old 3 May 2004, 9:19 AM   #19 (permalink)
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but if you experiment with different styles of presenting your theme, it can in some cases enhance the meaning...like for example if you were writing a poem about an object and rendered the poetry in the shape of that object....

hmm i never thought seriously about doing that....i always had it in my mind but i related it to more childish poems- so you dont think the markers would view it like that?
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yeah i've experimented with visual structure, not to the extent you suggested but its in there, in my Viva we seemed to conclude that id used techniques subtly to convey the theme of each particular poem.
But yeah.. Serpentia said it all...i dont want to fall into the trap of forcing rhyme or style.
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I hate forced rhyme, it annoys the hell out of me. I love accidental rhyme, I dont know if anyone knows what i'm talking about but like when you're reading a poem in free verse and you come across a line or two that rhyme and it just enhances the flow and rhythm of the poem?
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I hate forced rhyme as well. forced rhyme destroys poetry, it's that simple

I love when I read a piece and discover it rhymes, as in you don't notice it. That's always nice.

And there is more to rhyme than end rhyme. Internal rhyme can work wonders for rhythm and beat, not to mention flow
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oh god... internal rhyme is heaven. I just go into raptures reading some poetry, im sure thats not normal. I love just the whole lyrical style of poetry, its not rhyme but it just sounds like music and its fantastic to read. Although there is alot to be said for the minimalist styles as well, the whole less is more concept
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I experiment with each of my poems. There are not all in free verse, I guess I want to show the markers that I did experiment with the form.
Although I have stayed away from rhyme.
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I've done a 180 on my original idea....i'm experimenting with old forms of poetry like Palindrome.....in it's early form...
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hmm i never thought seriously about doing that....i always had it in my mind but i related it to more childish poems- so you dont think the markers would view it like that?
we if you justified it in your reflection statement as an exploration of how visual structure can aid meaning... i can't see how they could frown on it....

true it does have childish connotations...but when used appropriately i think it could be very effective...

afterall it specifies that the MW must be one or more of the following...

Analytical
imaginative
investigative
interpratative...

and that's definitely imaginative....

There are some clever ones in the "types of poetry" section of www.shadowpoetry.com

that you might wanna check out...


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go free verse!

if you dont like through a style, then you have to link through a concept or structure.
otherwise you look like you plagiarized bits and pieces.

also the examiners will think you're indecisive, unorganised and you'll have a hell of a lot of explaining to do during your reflection statement...
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I hate forced rhyme as well. forced rhyme destroys poetry, it's that simple

I love when I read a piece and discover it rhymes, as in you don't notice it. That's always nice.

And there is more to rhyme than end rhyme. Internal rhyme can work wonders for rhythm and beat, not to mention flow
I used to share your view.

-and still do if your talking of the forced rhyme that goes like this:

i went to town one day - and fell into some hay - i thought that i should stay - because i didn't have to pay...

that sort of rhyme is utterly abhorrant and should not be taken seriously unless it is used for comic purposes or to entertain small children...(in my opinion anyway)

but I have come to respect the more intelligent application of rhyme as an important poetic technique (when used aptly).
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rhyme is a great thing... it doesn't destroy poetry!

forced rhyme is useful for atmosphere, structural purposes or even humour...
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rhyme should only be used for a specific purpose.
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