Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old?

Cookie182 · 7 Aug 2008, 9:46 PM

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The charge would be the same as per the Crimes Act which has already been stated. However, at sentencing the judge would take into account mitigating factors such as the age difference of the offender, possible statements of will from the vicitm (if u can call her that) etc etc obviously every case is sentenced on its own merit. However, i am imagining that a 50 year old would be sentenced much much harder however im in my first year and hence my opinion = shit.

dust.

Cookie182 · 7 Aug 2008, 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyan_phoeniX

It seems the age of consent in all states is 16, not 18 as I had assumed. I think that's why worm called me an idiot (not that i'll lose any sleep over it). So yes, it would be legal I guess.

The age of consent is 16. It is absolute; u dont need to ask 'what if' questions. Whether it is ethical or not, well thats not really in debate. It is just as legal for a consenting 16 year old to sleep with her 18 year old boyfriend as it is for a consenting 16 to sleep with a 65 year old rock spider. As scary as that is (and assuming he doesnt owe her a duty of care through guardianship/teacher/tutor etc) that is what the law allows.

prichardson · 7 Aug 2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacilli

oh no? lolz who does the charging mate?

Hahahahahahahahahaha...

This one we found living in solitary.

Pranav · 8 Aug 2008, 12:42 AM

hey guys,

ok umm at the beginning of this year, im in yr 12, we had a ex-policeman come talk to all the boys of our grade as some kind of informative talk about date rape, binging etc.. anyway, he mentioned the fact about sleeping with younger girls/boys. he said tha in numerous causes that he had encountered first and second hand that if a say 17 or 18 year old boy was found to be having sex witha 16 year old girl, provided there was consent from both, the police would not press the issue unless the parents really wanted to go on with it.

i think obviously as the age gap increases the severity of the crim will also..but not just sex...there are countless crimes in america for example where 17 year olds are tried as adults, but as mentioned if it reaches that level then it is the judges disgression.

but yeh thot i would just share wat my experience wit the cop.

Bacilli · 8 Aug 2008, 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by prichardson

Hahahahahahahahahaha...

This one we found living in solitary.

zzzzzzz
come on?
put some effort in, son

Pranav · 8 Aug 2008, 8:06 AM

ok if 16 does not equal illegal, his main point was that if the children are nearer in age e.g. two 15 year olds, then the policeman does hav input into the case, in the form of wether it reaches court at all. But yeh this is quite a volatile issue, can be argued either way i guess.

Wassup? · 8 Aug 2008, 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranav

ok if 16 does not equal illegal, his main point was that if the children are nearer in age e.g. two 15 year olds, then the policeman does hav input into the case, in the form of wether it reaches court at all. But yeh this is quite a volatile issue, can be argued either way i guess.

Mate, there's no two ways around it. If the victim chooses to press charges, the police are forced to investigate and The Crown WILL take the case to court, provided that the judge in the preliminary hearing decided that there is a case to answer to.

katie tully · 8 Aug 2008, 8:15 AM

the only input the cop has is to arrest them and maybe charge them, but once they're charged it goes to a prosecutor, and man i seriously don't think there are many prosecutors who would make a case against two 15 year olds

also stat rape is harder to prove than normal rape. if you have two consenting people, and the person making the complaint is say, the mother... then you have a burden of proof. unless you can get the younger partner to make a statement against the older partner, it's pretty hard to make a case against stat rape especially when the ages are so close

not to be said it cant be done, but it's hard

Wassup? · 8 Aug 2008, 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by katie tully

the only input the cop has is to arrest them and maybe charge them, but once they're charged it goes to a prosecutor, and man i seriously don't think there are many prosecutors who would make a case against two 15 year olds

also stat rape is harder to prove than normal rape. if you have two consenting people, and the person making the complaint is say, the mother... then you have a burden of proof. unless you can get the younger partner to make a statement against the older partner, it's pretty hard to make a case against stat rape especially when the ages are so close

not to be said it cant be done, but it's hard

That's true, the case most probably would buckle and collapse if the victim refuses to make a statement or cooperate.

katie tully · 8 Aug 2008, 8:21 AM

i knew of this couple out here. she was 15, he was 17. they had a kid together by the time she was 16 and evrything was peachy. something went wrong and they broke up, and she accused him of stat rape 3 years after the fact.
so naturally he got charged coz the proof was there (a baby at 16) and now he has no access to the kid.

she's a vindictive bitch and it's unfortunate that she did this, but meh

Wassup? · 8 Aug 2008, 8:27 AM

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Originally Posted by katie tully

i knew of this couple out here. she was 15, he was 17. they had a kid together by the time she was 16 and evrything was peachy. something went wrong and they broke up, and she accused him of stat rape 3 years after the fact.
so naturally he got charged coz the proof was there (a baby at 16) and now he has no access to the kid.

she's a vindictive bitch and it's unfortunate that she did this, but meh

What a bitch!

What punishment did he get? Was it only that he never got to see his kid again?

Anyway, I'm off to watch porn and then study. Cya.

katie tully · 8 Aug 2008, 8:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Wassup?

What a bitch!

What punishment did he get? Was it only that he never got to see his kid again?

Anyway, I'm off to watch porn and then study. Cya.

no we had to do weekend detention for a while and has to pay child support
he from all accounts was a nice guy, no abuse, very involved in the kids life. worked hard.

sad

Wassup? · 8 Aug 2008, 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by katie tully

no we had to do weekend detention for a while and has to pay child support
he from all accounts was a nice guy, no abuse, very involved in the kids life. worked hard.

sad

Yeah, and now he has a black mark against his name. Women, there's no way around em. HAHA!

(Please don't bite back at me with "Women are just as equal as men, men can be vindictive blah blah blah. )

lol

katie tully · 8 Aug 2008, 8:36 AM

Nah women are 2579835 times more vindictive and catty than guys. Makes me sick.

prichardson · 8 Aug 2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacilli

zzzzzzz
come on?
put some effort in, son

Okay- you are to totally ignorant fuckwit whom has no idea about the legal proceedings the country you are currently living in.

Wake up.

8 Aug 2008, 12:42 AM	#34 (permalink)
Pranav New Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Male Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3 Last Activity: 24 Dec 2008, 11:39 AM	Re: Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old? hey guys, ok umm at the beginning of this year, im in yr 12, we had a ex-policeman come talk to all the boys of our grade as some kind of informative talk about date rape, binging etc.. anyway, he mentioned the fact about sleeping with younger girls/boys. he said tha in numerous causes that he had encountered first and second hand that if a say 17 or 18 year old boy was found to be having sex witha 16 year old girl, provided there was consent from both, the police would not press the issue unless the parents really wanted to go on with it. i think obviously as the age gap increases the severity of the crim will also..but not just sex...there are countless crimes in america for example where 17 year olds are tried as adults, but as mentioned if it reaches that level then it is the judges disgression. but yeh thot i would just share wat my experience wit the cop. __________________ Ride Or Die

8 Aug 2008, 8:06 AM	#36 (permalink)
Pranav New Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Male Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3 Last Activity: 24 Dec 2008, 11:39 AM	Re: Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old? ok if 16 does not equal illegal, his main point was that if the children are nearer in age e.g. two 15 year olds, then the policeman does hav input into the case, in the form of wether it reaches court at all. But yeh this is quite a volatile issue, can be argued either way i guess. __________________ Ride Or Die

8 Aug 2008, 8:15 AM	#38 (permalink)
katie tully oMg BEbBe iM sXc HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,371 Last Activity: Yesterday, 12:19 AM	Re: Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old? the only input the cop has is to arrest them and maybe charge them, but once they're charged it goes to a prosecutor, and man i seriously don't think there are many prosecutors who would make a case against two 15 year olds also stat rape is harder to prove than normal rape. if you have two consenting people, and the person making the complaint is say, the mother... then you have a burden of proof. unless you can get the younger partner to make a statement against the older partner, it's pretty hard to make a case against stat rape especially when the ages are so close not to be said it cant be done, but it's hard

8 Aug 2008, 8:21 AM	#40 (permalink)
katie tully oMg BEbBe iM sXc HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,371 Last Activity: Yesterday, 12:19 AM	Re: Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old? i knew of this couple out here. she was 15, he was 17. they had a kid together by the time she was 16 and evrything was peachy. something went wrong and they broke up, and she accused him of stat rape 3 years after the fact. so naturally he got charged coz the proof was there (a baby at 16) and now he has no access to the kid. she's a vindictive bitch and it's unfortunate that she did this, but meh

8 Aug 2008, 8:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
katie tully oMg BEbBe iM sXc HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,371 Last Activity: Yesterday, 12:19 AM	Re: Would a 17 year old sleeping with a 15 year old be charged the same as a 50 year old? Nah women are 2579835 times more vindictive and catty than guys. Makes me sick.

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