Best uni for studying Law?

[neo o]

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Originally Posted by Lucid Scintilla

At 99.55, USyd hands-down.
Job prospects afterwards for the average student, pretty good; for top students, veeery damn good.

UNSW, University of Melbourne, and University of Monash aren't bad, too.

You can practise law with a LLB or B Laws that you get from, say, ANU (whose cutoff, in 2008, was 95), Wollongong University (90?), University of Western Sydney (~90), and several others, but many firms are tied up in the notion of 'prestige'.

Hey, but a law degree's a law degree, right?

If you don't make Sydney's two law schools, go to ANU. If you don't mind moving further away, go to Victoria/elsewhere.

The good universities guide recommends UNSW as the best but overall Sydney is more prestigous than UNSW mainly because it is the oldest law school. I think historicall speaking only Usyd graduates have become high court justices from our state but that said South Australia (the state not the Uni) hasn't ever had one either - this stat too is probably reflective of the fact that Syd has been around much longer.

I thought that Frigid and I civilly chased people like both of you away a long time ago. There are always more seventeen year olds ready to jump out of the woodwork though and rank law schools based on UAI cutoffs.

UWS and UoW kids, start your flaming.

[bryandawn]

USyd does have a very high prestige, but I heard from my previous business law lecturer at Macquarie that if I want to treat myself well, don't study law there as there is a snobbish culture of discrimination. People there are from the north shore, with generations in their families in law, got networks, private school graduates; whereas I am a first generation Australian, didn't go to private school, didn't even go to public school here in Australia, don't have money, don't own a house, I rent. And I have no parents to depend on. They will crush me if I go there.

UNSW has a more friendly atmosphere.

I wish to transfer to either UNSW or UTS just for its practicality and friendly culture. I don't even fancy working for the Big 6 or any top tier commercial firm. The business world doesn't interest me, so I guess the prestige doesn't mean that much to me.

And why not consider University of Auckland, top uni in NZ, easy to get in, cheaper to study, if prestige is what you really value, even though basically any high school graduate can get in, they still have a very high reputation, well, it's not that easy to graduate.

If I were living in Queensland, Griffith really interests me, because of its emphasis on social justice and judicial justice.

I guess many students who did not get into USyd or UNSW or Monash, who got into other law school only because they did not make it to their top preferences. It is thus quite pointless to discuss the rankings.

I think law students should be mature enough to think through everything for yourself, and wherever you have set your mind on, based on thorough and logical thinking, work hard for your goal, don't care what other people say, or what the mainstream is.

[hfis]

Originally Posted by ekoolish

Combined mainly

In Sydney.

Fuck you.

Originally Posted by Lucid Scintilla

At 99.55, USyd hands-down.

The UAI doesn't correlate to quality of the degree program in the slightest you twat.

You can practise law with a LLB or B Laws

These are literally the exact same degree.

but many firms are tied up in the notion of 'prestige'.

No, I'd say many firms are tied up in the notion of 'giving jobs to people with stellar academic transcripts'.

I fucking hate everyone in this thread and everything it stands for.

Originally Posted by neo o

I thought that Frigid and I civilly chased people like both of you away a long time ago. There are always more seventeen year olds ready to jump out of the woodwork though and rank law schools based on UAI cutoffs.

UWS and UoW kids, start your flaming.

Except you of course.

[Gerald10]

Originally Posted by neo o

I thought that Frigid and I civilly chased people like both of you away a long time ago. There are always more seventeen year olds ready to jump out of the woodwork though and rank law schools based on UAI cutoffs.

UWS and UoW kids, start your flaming.

Im just relaying what I have been told by a whole host of lawyers and an MP. I didn't mention anything about UAI cut offs other than that those two are harder to get into I even sighted ANU whose cut-off is far more achievable as a very good university to study law at - again relayed to me by a host of lawyers.

[jtyler]

I'm sure you mean 'cited.'

[Lucid Scintilla]

Originally Posted by hfis

The UAI doesn't correlate to quality of the degree program in the slightest.

I understand; it's sort of hard not simply going by numbers and figures, the elitist Group of Eight thingy.

These are literally the exact same degree.

Yeah, I know. They're different means of spelling out the same thing (one derived from Latin; the other English); an undergraduate degree in law. :/

No, I'd say many firms are tied up in the notion of 'giving jobs to people with stellar academic transcripts'.

Ha, well... wasn't that a given?

I was referring to the hypothetical when all applicants have equally impressive transcripts?

Originally Posted by neo o

I thought that Frigid and I civilly chased people like both of you away a long time ago. There are always more seventeen year olds ready to jump out of the woodwork though and rank law schools based on UAI cutoffs.

UWS and UoW kids, start your flaming.

K.

... instead, why don't you not chase nublets, and start a sole thread enlightening these 'seventeen-year-olds ready to jump out of the woodwork and rank law schools based on UAI cutoffs'?

Now edify me, how about, bests:
Prestige-wise: U Syd / UoM / ANU (but somehow U Syd, at least in NSW, seems to get a lot more respect).
By quality:
1. Melbourne
2. ANU (particularly environmental law / international law)
2. Sydney
4. UNSW
5. Monash
6. Queensland
7. UWA
8. Adelaide
9. Macquarie
10. Griffith

ekoolish, if you're genuine and serious about studying law, you shouldn't close your horizons solely to Sydney, NSW. A law degree's still a law degree (and it's OMGZ law).
[Quasi-obligatory .]

[ekoolish]

Well i have a family network established largely in Sydney, so it works quite well for me to study within Sydney rather then abroad.

Hfis you're just retarted. You make no sense whatsoever- i simply made the thread to gain an idea of which Uni could offer the best degree for my needs. So gtfo.

Thank you everyone else for the advice

[hfis]

Originally Posted by ekoolish

i simply made the thread to gain an idea of which Uni could offer the best degree for my needs.

No, you asked 'what is the best uni to study law?' - much like another 500 people have done before you in this forum, you insufferable retard.

Click this to make all your wildest dreams come true.

Oh, and re: getting the fuck out; I'll get right on that chief.

[Lucid Scintilla]

Originally Posted by ekoolish

Well i have a family network established largely in Sydney, so it works quite well for me to study within Sydney rather then abroad.

Abroad = overseas.
Interstate = in another state within the same country.

Hfis you're just retarted. You make no sense whatsoever- i simply made the thread to gain an idea of which Uni could offer the best degree for my needs. So gtfo.

Thank you everyone else for the advice

Lol, k, np.

By the way, if you're UAI aim is 90.01 (which you can't actually get), and that's what you get, I think the only law school without applying to another TAC (other than the UAC) that'd admit you would be Canberra (which is interstate) and some of the 'lesser' universities.
Cutoffs:
ANU: 95.5
Griffith: 93.05 (for the highest law course; combined with Psychological Sciences)
Macquarie: 96 (highest), 95 (lowest)
Southern Cross: 90
Canberra: 85
New England: 83
UNSW (win! (I'm biased)): 99.4
Syd: 99.55
UTS: 97.25-98.05
UWS: 90.10
W'gong: 90

Then remember there are bonus points.

[SylvesterBr]

Originally Posted by nicko1990

wtf haha. who claims that. 'we're one of the top 8 unis in australia'. gee, that's totally awesome.

and yes they're ONE OF THE TOP, true, but i wouldn't say they were the top, not by a long shot.

Dude liek its an actual thing u kno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_(Australian_universities)

[ekoolish]

Originally Posted by hfis

No, you asked 'what is the best uni to study law?' - much like another 500 people have done before you in this forum, you insufferable retard.

Click this to make all your wildest dreams come true.

Oh, and re: getting the fuck out; I'll get right on that chief.

Now that isn't an exaggeration..

Lucid: Lol. I don't think you understand the irony of my signature. It is quite obvious 90.01 UAI is not achievable- which is my point exactly; impossible is nothing

[TehAzner]

Originally Posted by ekoolish

Now that isn't an exaggeration..

Lucid: Lol. I don't think you understand the irony of my signature. It is quite obvious 90.01 UAI is not achievable- which is my point exactly; impossible is nothing

Your signature makes total sense to me

[Omnidragon]

avoid law like a plague... it is such a pretentious faculty

[jackmurray1989]

Originally Posted by hfis

No, you asked 'what is the best uni to study law?' - much like another 500 people have done before you in this forum, you insufferable retard.

Click this to make all your wildest dreams come true.

Oh, and re: getting the fuck out; I'll get right on that chief.

Lol. Good to see you're stepping it up in frigid's absence. It always looks more authoritative when it's not in size 2 blue font.

[LA88]

I wonder, do the Australian Law Students Association competition rankings from 2008 change your perceptions of which law school is the best? It's one thing to have a high UAI cut-off and a prestige to boot. It's another to turn out students who have sought after skills and a practical aptitude that many undergraduates lack.

Final Standings

The short answer, to whoever started this thread, is that there is no short answer. Read as much as you can about the structure of the course offered at each uni, make sure each uni offers a good quality secondary degree and speak to some students currently enrolled at the unis you are interested in.

Keep an open mind, make an informed decision, and don't stress too much (you can transfer after your first year if you don't like it).

Good Hunting!