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Old 22 Aug 2004, 8:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just thought I would remind people that they can do the Diploma in Law from the Legal Practitioners Admission Board. Whilst there is speculation that its not good enough (i.e. just a Diploma), I believe its perhaps just as challenging.

My lecturers are law academics from a range of universities, from authors of prominent law books, through to practicing barristers who have attained qualifications from around the world.

The Diploma is difficult, with high failure rates. This is because assessment is based on a final exam, rather than part assessment with assignments as with universities. I have spoke to a wide range of people in the profession, many of the top-notch law graduates tend to have also cheated in their assessments. I have heard some even have the help from the lawyers they work for writing up assignments. You can't do this in the DipLaw.
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 8:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1. Some of our courses are exam only...ie 10 % class participation...90% exam. Even if there is an assignment the exam is still worth 60%.

2. Law teachers are not stupid people. They have a bullshit detector plus many of the lawyers today would be out of touch with what is being tought in law schools at the moment.

3. Ive never encountered anyone who has cheated on an assessment mainly because you cant really cheat in a law assessment? Other than plagerise and well if you plagerise or copy someone else you wont know your stuff for the final exam and you will fail anyways...
Yeah actually I''ve never been able to cheat in a LLB exam. Cheating is more time consuming then actually knowing the material first hand. The best you could do is collaborate in an assessment task/take home exam I guess.

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Actually, you sound like adamj, are you adamJ.
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 10:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Who else would reply to this??? LOL

Look I will be first to admit that a great bulk of law students are smart people advancing through the hard work and commitment, and this goes toward people like Asquithian and santaslayer. Because the DipLaw course has many paralegals and clerks studying, I have been told that some LLB students do cheat in assignments and so do DipLaw students, but it doesn't mean anything in DipLaw. I am aware of assessment for LLB/Law subjects, as I am doing a series of Law subjects in SoSc degree, inlcuding Criminal Law and Commercial sub-majors.

yes it is Adamj.
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 11:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Who else would reply to this??? LOL

yes it is Adamj.
Hello

What happened to the adamj account?
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Hey mate.

It's been a while and I couldn't bother retrieving the password so I set another account up.

Good to be back!
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what does the diploma in law involve?
is it expensive to do?
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The Diploma is difficult, with high failure rates. This is because assessment is based on a final exam, rather than part assessment with assignments as with universities. I have spoke to a wide range of people in the profession, many of the top-notch law graduates tend to have also cheated in their assessments. I have heard some even have the help from the lawyers they work for writing up assignments. You can't do this in the DipLaw.
I think you'll find that at most unis even if the sum of all your marks equals a pass, you cannot pass unless you get 50%/whatever pass mark is on the final exam.

we have open book exams at anu so nobody needs to cheat
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Could u pls answer my questions?
how is it recognised?
how do u get into it?
and do you get credits if u chose to do a degree later?
- do u need a certian UAI?
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They should have this info in the prospectus! Maybe one of us should write "The Good Guide To Guys in Uni"
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Can someone please to me what a Paralegal does? Thanks.
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Paralegal = a person who didn't get the marks for law and was lazy enough to do a 26 week course = toady for a real lawyer = poor

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paralegal does all the secretarial things as well other legal roles such as legal research, litigation support, document management, trial preparation and support. prolly dont get paid as much...that's prolly the major difference as well as legal activities they can and cant do
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A paralegal can essentially become richer than a normal solicoter if you work for a sooper dooper QC. ......
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last session was fun...we had one 80% exam and one 90% and one 60% exame f or law.
OMFG.....that's scary....
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Jonathon is a very smart dude, his in my tute, answers all q's from tutor exceptionally well, i do support his motive :P

PS. Jon, how come u dont do B Laws?
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Thanks to those people who answered my question. I have one more though. What is the difference between a Lawyer, Solicitor and Barrister and what extra qualifications do you need to become a Queens Council? Thanks.
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