Application Guide for med/dent to Oz

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 21 Jul 2004, 12:18 AM

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This is a PDF guide for yr 12 leavers applying interstate across Oz

its from previous personal experience..

honestly atm its all i can think of.. should be good for around august....

*random rant*
its dedicated to all the stupid questions.. my coca-cola addiction.. countless episodes of scrubs.. lexi.. and all thoses aspiring n00bies :P go get them

feel free to b*tch.. about it cos i cant guarantee how accurate it is..

+Po1ntdext3r+ (aka alvin :P)

//edit: added newcastle application and working hyperlinks.

Estel · 21 Jul 2004, 5:05 AM

Interesting.

I like the table showing the unis at a glance.
Melbourne no interview eh....

Lexicographer · 21 Jul 2004, 8:15 AM

Alvin UNCLE has an application form too, remember that flimsy pink thing? Also, most med schools include Year 12 Mathematics as one of the four sciences they expect (at least two of the four usually required). Last year Newcastle required (from memory) 92.50 or higher.

And stop telling them to get insurance, since it will not ensure success.

Sorry Alvin, couldn't resist. You've done something I haven't got around to in months. Thanks VERY much, you are t3h w1nn4r!

Stuck.

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 21 Jul 2004, 8:51 AM

meh.. :P the UNCLE form came only once u got an interview right?
oh shooot ure right :S

92.5 :| ?! where did u get that cut-off from? R u sure?

lolz i kno but more applications more of the 1000 med/dent places ure in the running for

oooo i got stickied

// edit: if corrections exceed 6 ill correct and repost.. otherwise too lazy:P

NichNich · 25 Sep 2004, 5:23 AM

What the? Tasmania needs a separate form? If I applied through VTAC for melbourne, monash and tas, do I still need a separate form? Or is that just for ppl who apply straight to tas?

Many thanks for the guide

I really helps, just found it now, I thought it was great!

Lexicographer · 25 Sep 2004, 5:52 AM

It's just for the people who apply directly to the university.

To anyone else reading this thread, I highly recommend direct application. Why? Well, if you do apply for UTas through VTAC then you can only receive one offer from UTas, Monash or Melbourne (whichever is highest) whereas if you apply seperately you can get an offer from both UTas and the Victorian school of choice. I know the UTas system isn't very pretty, it's time consuming and rather annoying to navigate, but it's free and it gives you one more potential offer.

dawma88 · 17 Nov 2004, 10:24 PM

hi, im in yr 12 and im Intrested in doing medicine in 2005. i would just like to ask any of you several question: 1) what is UMAT
2) dont u need like a really high uai (e.g. 99.5) to do med? or can you do med with a UAI of 90-95?
3) how long is the interview and what sort of questions do they ask?
4) do i have to do anything prior to the HSC inorder to get in med (i.e umat?, interview etc) ?

thanx for ur time
answears will be most appreciated

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 17 Nov 2004, 11:38 PM

1)UMAT - undergraduates medical admission test consists of 3 parts..with logic, comm skills and pattern recognition
2) no more.. its now recognised that social and other cognitive skills(edit:he is right see next post.. sorri.. lolz i was thinking about hearts :S) are also needed and that yr 12 results are not a super accurate indicator of performance as doctors
3) interviews are on average 45 mins to 1 hr... i hav known some to last 15 mins.. and they made med
4)UMAT and/or interview for most unis..

Lexicographer · 17 Nov 2004, 11:44 PM

I think Alvin means "cognitive" rather than "congestive"...

Reading through the guide attached to the first post would have answered most of your questions.

Keen · 18 Nov 2004, 3:48 PM

So it seems you've missed the cut-off, if you don't know what UMAT is and you want to do it next year.

Hmmnnnn maybe you didn't do enough research into med earlier (do you really want to do med or is it a side-thought).

Keen

dawma88 · 18 Nov 2004, 10:42 PM

moreover.... could u explain the format of UMAT deeply i.e wat questions and how i could prepare myself for it

**inasero** · 19 Nov 2004, 11:16 AM

section 1- logic puzzles
section 2- interpersonal skills and communication
section 3- visual-spatial cognition

m111 · 19 Nov 2004, 7:33 PM

... well, since u mentioned UMAT... =)

hi guys,
I'm looking into UMAT prep courses - ne suggestions? which is best? - ha ha dont u just love open-ended, impossible-to-answer questions!! I guess I'd b looking to attend in Syd or Newcastle... what do u reckon? (maybe i'll c u there, dawma88! ;p)

cheers,
m111

Lexicographer · 20 Nov 2004, 6:44 PM

Ok, first, how about some info about yourself? What year are you in? What kinda stuff are you good/bad at? This applies to both of you.

[edited for clarity]---------------------------------------------------------------------------

To be honest this is REALLY elementary stuff, and personally I expect people serious about applying to Medicine to be prepared to find the basic information themselves. That said, I'm not going to hold back on helping you. Just know that by relying on others to tell you what's going on (rather than finding out yourselves) you're already at a disadvantage.

m111 · 21 Nov 2004, 11:50 AM

Ouch Lexi! And I'v always been such a fan of ur work... =(
Just because I'm looking for the input of others that may have more knowledge than I do doesn't mean I haven't been spent all of yr 11 looking this stuff up! I just come from a place where the only med students I know went thru pre-UMAT, so I'm just looking for ne tips I can pick up!! Having now defended myself... =)

I know all the elementary stuff. I know most of the secondary stuff as well, but I was just looking for ne imput on the AMEPP vs Dr Dallas vs etc.. prep course debate. If ne body cares to make a comment on this then thank u.

21 Jul 2004, 5:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Estel Tutor HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,273 Last Activity: 4 Nov 2006, 10:49 AM	Interesting. I like the table showing the unis at a glance. Melbourne no interview eh.... __________________ Tutoring $70/2 hr blocks English and Mathematics. [99.85, 6th in state for 4U Maths, 2nd in state for 3U History] PM if you want to negotiate lessons at a city library. BA/MBBS at UNSW

21 Jul 2004, 8:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	Alvin UNCLE has an application form too, remember that flimsy pink thing? Also, most med schools include Year 12 Mathematics as one of the four sciences they expect (at least two of the four usually required). Last year Newcastle required (from memory) 92.50 or higher. And stop telling them to get insurance, since it will not ensure success. Sorry Alvin, couldn't resist. You've done something I haven't got around to in months. Thanks VERY much, you are t3h w1nn4r! Stuck. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006

25 Sep 2004, 5:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	It's just for the people who apply directly to the university. To anyone else reading this thread, I highly recommend direct application. Why? Well, if you do apply for UTas through VTAC then you can only receive one offer from UTas, Monash or Melbourne (whichever is highest) whereas if you apply seperately you can get an offer from both UTas and the Victorian school of choice. I know the UTas system isn't very pretty, it's time consuming and rather annoying to navigate, but it's free and it gives you one more potential offer. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006 Last edited by Lexicographer; 25 Sep 2004 at 5:56 AM.

17 Nov 2004, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
dawma88 Dance jew dance!!! HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 149 Last Activity: 12 Aug 2009, 11:02 AM	help plzz hi, im in yr 12 and im Intrested in doing medicine in 2005. i would just like to ask any of you several question: 1) what is UMAT 2) dont u need like a really high uai (e.g. 99.5) to do med? or can you do med with a UAI of 90-95? 3) how long is the interview and what sort of questions do they ask? 4) do i have to do anything prior to the HSC inorder to get in med (i.e umat?, interview etc) ? thanx for ur time answears will be most appreciated

17 Nov 2004, 11:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	I think Alvin means "cognitive" rather than "congestive"... Reading through the guide attached to the first post would have answered most of your questions. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006

25 Sep 2004, 5:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
NichNich Junior Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 27 Last Activity: 12 Oct 2009, 10:09 PM	What the? Tasmania needs a separate form? If I applied through VTAC for melbourne, monash and tas, do I still need a separate form? Or is that just for ppl who apply straight to tas? Many thanks for the guide I really helps, just found it now, I thought it was great!

18 Nov 2004, 3:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Keen MD HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 283 Last Activity: 5 Aug 2009, 12:17 AM	So it seems you've missed the cut-off, if you don't know what UMAT is and you want to do it next year. Hmmnnnn maybe you didn't do enough research into med earlier (do you really want to do med or is it a side-thought). Keen

18 Nov 2004, 10:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
dawma88 Dance jew dance!!! HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 149 Last Activity: 12 Aug 2009, 11:02 AM	smart moreover.... could u explain the format of UMAT deeply i.e wat questions and how i could prepare myself for it

19 Nov 2004, 11:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	section 1- logic puzzles section 2- interpersonal skills and communication section 3- visual-spatial cognition __________________

19 Nov 2004, 7:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
m111 Define "cynical" HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Somewhere I shouldn't be Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111 Last Activity: 2 Mar 2009, 12:00 AM	... well, since u mentioned UMAT... =) hi guys, I'm looking into UMAT prep courses - ne suggestions? which is best? - ha ha dont u just love open-ended, impossible-to-answer questions!! I guess I'd b looking to attend in Syd or Newcastle... what do u reckon? (maybe i'll c u there, dawma88! ;p) cheers, m111

20 Nov 2004, 6:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	Ok, first, how about some info about yourself? What year are you in? What kinda stuff are you good/bad at? This applies to both of you. [edited for clarity]--------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be honest this is REALLY elementary stuff, and personally I expect people serious about applying to Medicine to be prepared to find the basic information themselves. That said, I'm not going to hold back on helping you. Just know that by relying on others to tell you what's going on (rather than finding out yourselves) you're already at a disadvantage. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006 Last edited by Lexicographer; 21 Nov 2004 at 4:53 PM.

21 Nov 2004, 11:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
m111 Define "cynical" HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Somewhere I shouldn't be Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 111 Last Activity: 2 Mar 2009, 12:00 AM	Ouch Lexi! And I'v always been such a fan of ur work... =( Just because I'm looking for the input of others that may have more knowledge than I do doesn't mean I haven't been spent all of yr 11 looking this stuff up! I just come from a place where the only med students I know went thru pre-UMAT, so I'm just looking for ne tips I can pick up!! Having now defended myself... =) I know all the elementary stuff. I know most of the secondary stuff as well, but I was just looking for ne imput on the AMEPP vs Dr Dallas vs etc.. prep course debate. If ne body cares to make a comment on this then thank u.

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