Application Guide for med/dent to Oz

Estel · 24 Nov 2004, 9:39 PM

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meh i can't even apply at monash ...
inasero, do you feel that way because you're an interstate student or is it for the general student pop?

**inasero** · 25 Nov 2004, 12:59 AM

Well, I have a feeling it might not just be myself with these feelings. You see, when you're in high school, there's a fairly small population of students who you grow up with over six years and play sport with in the same teams so I guess you have a chance to 'belong'. Well the first thing you will notice in Uni is how big it is and the great diversity of people studying there. The fact of the matter is that Uni is a degree factory and they're just interested in pulling you through the conveyor belt and giving you a piece of paper at the end of a couple of years. So this confirms my personal maxim that being proud of an organization (like a school, or a uni, or even a country for that matter) is foolish since it's actually the people that you associate with.

**inasero** · 25 Nov 2004, 1:00 AM

Disclaimer: By the way you might think that displaying my uni logo in my signature might contradict what I just said, I merely put it there to let people know I study here :P

Lexicographer · 25 Nov 2004, 11:17 AM

Hmm Wilson I don't corroborate your views on degree factory, not entirely. I find that (at UTS:Science at least) the academics are most interested in us understanding and maintaining an interest in our course content. For the people who teach me, what counts isn't that I get the marks, but that I care about what I'm doing.

This to me reflects the true, ancient spirit of the University: a place were you go to learn simply because knowledge is a precious thing and learning is beautiful (I really hate agreeing with those hippies in the Student Assosciation, but they're right about this). Degree factory sounds more like what USyd is trying to do - exemplar gratia, Nursing is not profitable so they cut it loose.

As for schools, there are plenty I know (mostly teachers) who refer to James Ruse as a UAI factory. I won't comment until Alvin has had a chance to set his case, but it's that kind of attitude that's screwing up education (combined with the commercialisation of just about everything). People have moved away from universities as a place to explore wisdom and towards a world where university = money (Business faculty? What a nightmare!).

Very depressing thoughts.

I think I'll clean my room now.

**inasero** · 25 Nov 2004, 5:10 PM

perhaps you've got the long end of the stick...but I maintain that for my uni at least, it's just a commercial venture. Research is a highly lucrative business, and unless the uni can make a couple of grand off some hapless internationals, its no use funding undergrad courses (e.g. hence the discontinuation of many arts subjects from next year onwards).

I'm glad that your faculty have got it right though.

Lexicographer · 25 Nov 2004, 5:19 PM

Hmm, I can't comment on Arts because I only know the Sydney unis - Everyone knows UNSW continues to offer Arts because it's profitable and they have strong international links, USyd is the traditional Arts uni and their faculty is very strong, while UTS doesn't even have an Arts faculty.

Though I did get the impression that for the most part, Science faculties in general function in a way similar to my own. How administratively flexible they are is another matter.

AK Gumbi · 25 Nov 2004, 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inasero

lol i dunno....but they sure dont have pride in it either....
i guess its cos we havent been given an opportunity to feel as if we truly 'belong'

Hey Willy, I do have pride in our uni and im sure the others do as well. I admit uni is diff to school in that it's larger and u seem more insignificant. But that doesnt have anything to do with pride. Monash is helping me (letting me) achieve my ultimate goal and for that i give ultimate respect to it. And secondly, Monash is internationally renowned, so why wouldnt i be proud to say that i go to Monash?
Not having a go at u at all, but i jus feel that we shouldnt take some things for granted, that's all.

Keen · 25 Nov 2004, 7:11 PM

That may be the case with the uni as a whole, but I find Adelaide med is a great community amongst our year level and the years above us.
I absolutely love it and I think it's the greatest thing about med, now I don't know whether you have this at Monash but it's well and truly alive in Adelaide.

Cheers

Keen

Estel · 25 Nov 2004, 9:55 PM

hmm UNSW would be similar to Monash perhaps, with lots of international students. hmmm
does Adel have arts/med? [didn't find any ref. to it online]

Keen · 26 Nov 2004, 2:58 PM

No, it's just straight Med, we've got about 140 students with 40 of them international.
But a good community.

Keen

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 26 Nov 2004, 3:01 PM

no we hav MBBS/Medsci..
u could ask the dean directly for Arts/MBBS and technically since others grant it.. so should he..
and it would be easier to get pts cos we start electives in yr 1.. if i recall lots of ppl just spend an extra summer or 2 and they qualify for arts too so in 6.5 yrs u could

with ruse its a nice school.. yes it is a factory in a sense but then it is a selective school too that encourages other things besides academics ..

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 27 Nov 2004, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inasero

i have 2 edit this list:

sique - UNSW
skywalker -UNSW
inasero - Monash
AKGumbi- Monash
Superman- Monash
eskimo- Monash
keen - Adel
+Po1ntDeXt3r+ - Adel

wait i kno sique is a girl.. i can vouch for that mostly

lolz shes goin to hit me..

and she hits hard
but is anyone else?.. cos i think the rest of the med ppl here are guys..
altho inasero and keen.. act lik girls

altho.. med schools are only 33-45% boys :S.. this forum numbers are misleading..

**inasero** · 27 Nov 2004, 1:02 AM

lol whos acting like a girl? that is a very sexist way to talk about these bitches!

+Po1ntDeXt3r+ · 27 Nov 2004, 1:43 AM

Aaiii
thats is immature....
but booyakasha! :P

Lexicographer · 27 Nov 2004, 3:41 PM

Hehe now you're revealing names in your sig quotes?

I could have fun with that.

25 Nov 2004, 12:59 AM	#32 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	Well, I have a feeling it might not just be myself with these feelings. You see, when you're in high school, there's a fairly small population of students who you grow up with over six years and play sport with in the same teams so I guess you have a chance to 'belong'. Well the first thing you will notice in Uni is how big it is and the great diversity of people studying there. The fact of the matter is that Uni is a degree factory and they're just interested in pulling you through the conveyor belt and giving you a piece of paper at the end of a couple of years. So this confirms my personal maxim that being proud of an organization (like a school, or a uni, or even a country for that matter) is foolish since it's actually the people that you associate with. __________________

25 Nov 2004, 1:00 AM	#33 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	Disclaimer: By the way you might think that displaying my uni logo in my signature might contradict what I just said, I merely put it there to let people know I study here :P __________________

25 Nov 2004, 11:17 AM	#34 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	Hmm Wilson I don't corroborate your views on degree factory, not entirely. I find that (at UTS:Science at least) the academics are most interested in us understanding and maintaining an interest in our course content. For the people who teach me, what counts isn't that I get the marks, but that I care about what I'm doing. This to me reflects the true, ancient spirit of the University: a place were you go to learn simply because knowledge is a precious thing and learning is beautiful (I really hate agreeing with those hippies in the Student Assosciation, but they're right about this). Degree factory sounds more like what USyd is trying to do - exemplar gratia, Nursing is not profitable so they cut it loose. As for schools, there are plenty I know (mostly teachers) who refer to James Ruse as a UAI factory. I won't comment until Alvin has had a chance to set his case, but it's that kind of attitude that's screwing up education (combined with the commercialisation of just about everything). People have moved away from universities as a place to explore wisdom and towards a world where university = money (Business faculty? What a nightmare!). Very depressing thoughts. I think I'll clean my room now. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006

25 Nov 2004, 5:10 PM	#35 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	perhaps you've got the long end of the stick...but I maintain that for my uni at least, it's just a commercial venture. Research is a highly lucrative business, and unless the uni can make a couple of grand off some hapless internationals, its no use funding undergrad courses (e.g. hence the discontinuation of many arts subjects from next year onwards). I'm glad that your faculty have got it right though. __________________

25 Nov 2004, 5:19 PM	#36 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	Hmm, I can't comment on Arts because I only know the Sydney unis - Everyone knows UNSW continues to offer Arts because it's profitable and they have strong international links, USyd is the traditional Arts uni and their faculty is very strong, while UTS doesn't even have an Arts faculty. Though I did get the impression that for the most part, Science faculties in general function in a way similar to my own. How administratively flexible they are is another matter. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006

24 Nov 2004, 9:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
Estel Tutor HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,273 Last Activity: 4 Nov 2006, 10:49 AM	You can hide this advertisement by registering. meh i can't even apply at monash ... inasero, do you feel that way because you're an interstate student or is it for the general student pop?

25 Nov 2004, 7:11 PM	#38 (permalink)
Keen MD HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 283 Last Activity: 5 Aug 2009, 12:17 AM	That may be the case with the uni as a whole, but I find Adelaide med is a great community amongst our year level and the years above us. I absolutely love it and I think it's the greatest thing about med, now I don't know whether you have this at Monash but it's well and truly alive in Adelaide. Cheers Keen

25 Nov 2004, 9:55 PM	#39 (permalink)
Estel Tutor HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,273 Last Activity: 4 Nov 2006, 10:49 AM	hmm UNSW would be similar to Monash perhaps, with lots of international students. hmmm does Adel have arts/med? [didn't find any ref. to it online] __________________ Tutoring $70/2 hr blocks English and Mathematics. [99.85, 6th in state for 4U Maths, 2nd in state for 3U History] PM if you want to negotiate lessons at a city library. BA/MBBS at UNSW

26 Nov 2004, 2:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
Keen MD HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 283 Last Activity: 5 Aug 2009, 12:17 AM	No, it's just straight Med, we've got about 140 students with 40 of them international. But a good community. Keen

27 Nov 2004, 1:02 AM	#43 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	lol whos acting like a girl? that is a very sexist way to talk about these bitches! __________________

27 Nov 2004, 3:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
Lexicographer Retired 13 May 2006 HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Darnassus ftw Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,054 Last Activity: 20 Feb 2009, 5:19 PM	Hehe now you're revealing names in your sig quotes? I could have fun with that. __________________ No longer active as of 13 May 2006

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