Application Guide for med/dent to Oz

sambo_rambo · 28 Jul 2005, 9:32 PM

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Hi everyone!
I'm new at writing on these forum things...but I have a burning question.
I am applying for medicine at UNSW and Newcastle, with UNSW as my first preference. I have heard that if you put any med school as your second preference, then you won't get in. I'm am not sure what kind of range my UAI will lie in in comparison to my UMAT scores, so I am worried about whether I will get into UNSW. Does anyone know if I can still get at interview at Newcastle if I don't get into UNSW? Or will my "second-preferencing" it ruined any chance?
Thanks,

Sam

velox · 28 Jul 2005, 9:37 PM

AFAIK it doesn't matter.

**inasero** · 29 Jul 2005, 4:52 PM

who told you that?!

ishq · 30 Jul 2005, 1:14 PM

Dallas said something similar - i.e UNCLE will know that they are your second preference and that might influence their decision to take you on.

velox · 30 Jul 2005, 1:15 PM

I heard that they dont know your uac preferences.

Keen · 30 Jul 2005, 2:23 PM

Yes it does matter if you put UNCLE as your first or second preference. You stand a higher chance of getting into whicher one you put in first as you get in their 'major round' draw. So I suggest if you don't want to go to UNSW or don't think you'll have a chance i.e. bad UMAT, low UAI to put UNCLE as your first preference before they do the interview selection.

Keen

Zali · 30 Jul 2005, 3:56 PM

How do u no that? i thought u had an equal chance of getting an interview at both as they both hav separate applicatoins and only look at that and ure UMAT for 1st round interviews. At NUCLE they dont even look at ure UAI until after ure interview

Keen · 30 Jul 2005, 6:57 PM

They just do, well I was told by someone that they did (this is very similar to what they do at Adelaide Uni with Med & Dent - where they clearly tell you this), and I think it's practically true as I got Umat scores that should have got me an interview but I put UNSW first and I didn't. I'm not 100% sure - call UNCLE Med Admisions - but something to be weary of.

Keen

velox · 30 Jul 2005, 8:21 PM

I will confirm and report back. Thanks for the info Keen.

**inasero** · 30 Jul 2005, 10:27 PM

wow if so...that's a scary prospect and at the same time very devious of UNCLE as it wasn't stated anywhere!

velox · 1 Aug 2005, 5:00 PM

Dear XXXX

The position of Newcastle amongst your UAC pereferences will not
influence the interview process at Newcastle (ie determining
eligibilirty for interview), it will though influence the allocation
process when UAC are offering places for courses. That is UAC will
offer you the highest preference for which you are eligible as such you
should carefully consider the ordre in which you place your
preferences.

Regards

Tracey

************************************************** ****

Tracey Bristow
Program Officer (BMed)
Faculty of Health
University of Newcastle
Callaghan NSW 2308

**inasero** · 1 Aug 2005, 5:52 PM

yeah as i thought- UNCLE doesnt know about nor manage the preferences because that's UAC's job, so in conclusion, it won't matter which uni you list first

Zali · 1 Aug 2005, 8:36 PM

yeah i didnt think they looked at ure prefferences. this is reasuring. good work velox

ishq · 1 Aug 2005, 9:45 PM

Great!
Thanks velox!

Glad one 2005'er is proactive.

hsoy711 · 3 Aug 2005, 10:30 AM

Pssst.

The word on the street is that Newcastle might be stopping the med course. People who failed and should have repeated were pushed through, another marking scandal for this uni maybe?

Come to UNSW everyone, you know you want to.

28 Jul 2005, 9:32 PM	#46 (permalink)
sambo_rambo Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 48 Last Activity: 3 Mar 2007, 1:23 PM	You can hide this advertisement by registering. Hi everyone! I'm new at writing on these forum things...but I have a burning question. I am applying for medicine at UNSW and Newcastle, with UNSW as my first preference. I have heard that if you put any med school as your second preference, then you won't get in. I'm am not sure what kind of range my UAI will lie in in comparison to my UMAT scores, so I am worried about whether I will get into UNSW. Does anyone know if I can still get at interview at Newcastle if I don't get into UNSW? Or will my "second-preferencing" it ruined any chance? Thanks, Sam Last edited by sambo_rambo; 28 Jul 2005 at 9:36 PM. Reason: bad spelling

29 Jul 2005, 4:52 PM	#48 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	who told you that?! __________________

30 Jul 2005, 1:14 PM	#49 (permalink)
ishq brown? HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 949 Last Activity: 5 Jan 2008, 2:22 AM	Dallas said something similar - i.e UNCLE will know that they are your second preference and that might influence their decision to take you on. __________________ \| Class of 2005 \|

30 Jul 2005, 10:27 PM	#55 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	wow if so...that's a scary prospect and at the same time very devious of UNCLE as it wasn't stated anywhere! __________________

1 Aug 2005, 5:52 PM	#57 (permalink)
inasero Reborn HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,348 Last Activity: 6 Jun 2009, 4:39 PM	yeah as i thought- UNCLE doesnt know about nor manage the preferences because that's UAC's job, so in conclusion, it won't matter which uni you list first __________________

28 Jul 2005, 9:37 PM	#47 (permalink)
velox Retired HSC: N/A Gender: Male Location: Where the citi never sleeps. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,425 Last Activity: Yesterday, 8:55 PM	AFAIK it doesn't matter.

30 Jul 2005, 1:15 PM	#50 (permalink)
velox Retired HSC: N/A Gender: Male Location: Where the citi never sleeps. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,425 Last Activity: Yesterday, 8:55 PM	I heard that they dont know your uac preferences.

30 Jul 2005, 2:23 PM	#51 (permalink)
Keen MD HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 283 Last Activity: 5 Aug 2009, 12:17 AM	Yes it does matter if you put UNCLE as your first or second preference. You stand a higher chance of getting into whicher one you put in first as you get in their 'major round' draw. So I suggest if you don't want to go to UNSW or don't think you'll have a chance i.e. bad UMAT, low UAI to put UNCLE as your first preference before they do the interview selection. Keen

30 Jul 2005, 3:56 PM	#52 (permalink)
Zali Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Coffs Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 151 Last Activity: 12 Feb 2007, 11:23 AM	How do u no that? i thought u had an equal chance of getting an interview at both as they both hav separate applicatoins and only look at that and ure UMAT for 1st round interviews. At NUCLE they dont even look at ure UAI until after ure interview

30 Jul 2005, 6:57 PM	#53 (permalink)
Keen MD HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 283 Last Activity: 5 Aug 2009, 12:17 AM	They just do, well I was told by someone that they did (this is very similar to what they do at Adelaide Uni with Med & Dent - where they clearly tell you this), and I think it's practically true as I got Umat scores that should have got me an interview but I put UNSW first and I didn't. I'm not 100% sure - call UNCLE Med Admisions - but something to be weary of. Keen

30 Jul 2005, 8:21 PM	#54 (permalink)
velox Retired HSC: N/A Gender: Male Location: Where the citi never sleeps. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,425 Last Activity: Yesterday, 8:55 PM	I will confirm and report back. Thanks for the info Keen.

1 Aug 2005, 5:00 PM	#56 (permalink)
velox Retired HSC: N/A Gender: Male Location: Where the citi never sleeps. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,425 Last Activity: Yesterday, 8:55 PM	Dear XXXX The position of Newcastle amongst your UAC pereferences will not influence the interview process at Newcastle (ie determining eligibilirty for interview), it will though influence the allocation process when UAC are offering places for courses. That is UAC will offer you the highest preference for which you are eligible as such you should carefully consider the ordre in which you place your preferences. Regards Tracey ************************************************ ** Tracey Bristow Program Officer (BMed) Faculty of Health University of Newcastle Callaghan NSW 2308

1 Aug 2005, 8:36 PM	#58 (permalink)
Zali Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Coffs Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 151 Last Activity: 12 Feb 2007, 11:23 AM	yeah i didnt think they looked at ure prefferences. this is reasuring. good work velox

1 Aug 2005, 9:45 PM	#59 (permalink)
ishq brown? HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 949 Last Activity: 5 Jan 2008, 2:22 AM	Great! Thanks velox! Glad one 2005'er is proactive. __________________ \| Class of 2005 \|

3 Aug 2005, 10:30 AM	#60 (permalink)
hsoy711 New Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Last Activity: 14 Aug 2007, 4:54 PM	Med Pssst. The word on the street is that Newcastle might be stopping the med course. People who failed and should have repeated were pushed through, another marking scandal for this uni maybe? Come to UNSW everyone, you know you want to.

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