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Originally Posted by BeeHee [quote=glenda2007]
Students at private schools do not have to work any less to obtain the marks they do. Indeed their parents posess the funds to send their children to these schools. Their is no evidence suggesting that if these students went to a public school they would perform any worse.
So why the hell go to a private school? 13 grand at a minimum must give you something results wise! Otherwise why are parents working two jobs if their kid will do the same at a state school? I don't think it is for the blazer
I think oliver is uneccesarily angry but he has a point. While 99.95 is an amazing achievement i don't think you should get a free ride on your further education because you chose only to sleep two or three hours a night. What about those who devoted hours of a busy life to volunteering for those less fortunate, students who were the sole bread winner in their part time job for a whole family or cared for a sick parent. Kids in public school because there is no other option. There are scholarships but nothing of the fanfare or scope of the 'high achievers'
The VCE system favours an elite private school system because of the way it ranks students and how internal marks are decided. But as a state school kid who got 95+ doing humanities subjects, i just wryly smile as my fellow melbourne uni Arts kids who spent 13 years geared toward getting the number struggle in an academic world that doesn't spoon feed the way they are used to. Students who got the 99+ and amazing scholarships.
Of course this is a generalisation but it comes from first hand accounts of private school educated friends who can now admitt that they were pushed to a score.
I might not have got an amazing scholarship but i got other experiences and lessons out of my $250 education that i am sad my private school friends missed out on. |
Dear Beehee
when you talk about why parents should choose public over private you automatically assume that it is purely due to academics and fail to consider the myriad of other reasons why parents make the choice.
Examples : better pastoral care, larger music program, better facilities, extensive sports program, larger variety of co-curricular activities, general school vibe, community feel and in some cases they just have money to blow !
Secondly I don't understand how you can define working extremely hard and sleeping less a "free ride". Not many students can say with conviction that they put as much dedication and effort into their work as this boy has so it is extremely you attack his achievements as a "free ride".
Furthermore not to personally attack you but you raise stereotypical arguments. What evidence is their backing that students at public schools do more volunteering then private schools. What evidence is their backing that public school students are disadvantaged because they have to work and private students don't. This is a huge generalisation and is impossible to back up.
Also your definition of "spoon feeding" . Is it so wrong that teachers are dedicated to their students and are willing to offer their time in lunchtimes etc. to help. Is it wrong for a student to send a teacher an email about work problems and get a prompt reply. Is it wrong for a teacher to have high expectations in their students ? When it comes down to deadlines in my experience their is little leeway and private schools adhere to the VCE submission protocols like every other school.
In my opinion VCE is a fair system that is moderated well. In english especially marks are extremely subjective. What if an english paper at a public school was graded an A and the same paper at a private school was graded a C ? Moderation helps balance this out and in no way are students disadvantaged for attending public or private