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Originally Posted by qwerthey I know this for a fact. Quoted for truth.
Absolutely correct.
Not quite, kids in private schools are no different in intelligence, than kids in public schools. The difference are the scholarship students.
Wasn't it just a few years ago, that FOUR students from Glen Waverly Secondary scored 99.95? Surely that's case in point. No one can be certain of the relative advantages or disadvantages of going to private school, however, results over the years have shown that 99.95 is achievable from either bracket.
For the record, I have been to a private school for 9 out of my 13 years of schooling, and private schooling, especially for boys schools isn't as easy-going as you'd think. They are countless commitments to school functions, community service is a given, and 5-6 hours of sport OUTSIDE of school hours per week. To each his or her own. Private school teachers are generally no different from public school teachers. Some are amazing, some are depressingly bad.
Who knows what difference to your ENTER, a private or public education can have? I do know that excuses and bitterness towards 'those damn private snobs', is hardly justifiable. It's like comparing apples and oranges, you can try but it just leads to confusion, colour-blindness and a fruity mess.
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perhaps I used the word "smart" far too loosely, I also don't believe in private school students having higher "intelligence", whatever that entails (yes, perhaps maybe except those super high scoring scholarship students). I really can't comment on private school life as I haven't gone to one, but it seems somewhat more "co-curricular"
Yeah I agree that there shouldn't be snobbery against private school students, and it's not like they're uncommon, what with 1/3 of the student population?
Yes I'm aware of Glen Waverly having 4 99.95 scoring students recently, but Glen Waverly has a history and reputation of being a high performing government school, with a ridiculously small and shrinking school zone due to demand. I have heard of people purposely buying houses or using "borrowed" addresses nearby to get into the Glen Waverly school zone. I have also heard of students being kicked out due to poor academic performance, essentially making it a somewhat semi selective school (not sure on this point though). The ethnicity of the nearby population (and coincidentally, also of the students who got 99.95) probably has something to do with it as well. Also, I remember reading that those students studied at lunchtimes together. At smaller government schools (Glen Waverly is massive) this is not as useful, due to not many people that dedicated or up to that high standard
Of course, it is possible for students from any government school to high marks, but I do believe (although I obviously can't prove it) that a high performing student who goes to a small government school will have a much harder time than if that student went to a high performing private school. Not only is there the disadvantage of lack of competition, there is a disadvantage in actual mark calculation, due to the weak cohort. At high performing schools the external exam marks will be higher, and thus SAC marks will be adjusted accordingly. I'm no expert on SS calculation, but it is my understanding that being in a strong cohort will give you an advantage when it comes to final SS calculation.
edit-> I think I completely ignored the point of this thread...if private school students get 99.95, then yes, they should get scholarships, it's not the Uni's fault that private school students get 99.95