Chinese Second Language

Omnidragon · 9 Oct 2007, 8:23 AM

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The system's rigged with heaps of Australian-born Chinese who speak fluent Mandarin at home taking Chinese as a Second Language. But they still do so poorly. HAHAHAHAA

Cara.Mel · 9 Oct 2007, 4:09 PM

They own us at listening though. So many times we hear a phrase, have no idea what it means, look at the chinese background people and they know it without any effort, and it's annoying because most of them still qualify for SL not SLA.
Next year our teacher told us listening on the exam will only be out of 10 marks, not 30. Which should make it a lot fairer, because the other sections are a lot easier

Shmeestar · 22 Oct 2007, 5:29 PM

Yes you are right about the mistakes in my signature thanks for the heads up

I'm totally freaking out right now, my mandarin oral is tomorrow. EEEK!

applekid · 8 Jan 2008, 2:56 PM

i really don't believe memorising the 600 is absolutely imperative to be honest. i had shocking (absolutely shocking. beyond comprehension really) recall of characters but still did fairly well in chinese. i think that if you know that you wont be able to remember that amount of characters in the year and that your chinese is not as strong as everyone else, then it is more effective to be able to recall them in pin yin, but also to be able to exploit the fact that you have a dictionary alongside, and take notice of effective vocab usage as opposed to just knowing a long list of words that may or may not be worthwhile. but that's just my experience.

dooopy · 12 Jan 2008, 6:55 AM

i got 39 for chinese secon lol, my oral examiners asked me reli easy questions

tom.sharkie · 12 Jan 2008, 9:51 PM

I started chinese in 2007. In a year (well, 10 months) I covered about 4 years of coursework...
This year I'm doing chinese by correspondence with the VSL.... I'm really nervous!
Any advice?

24lover · 13 Jan 2008, 3:05 PM

grrrrr hate chinese
parents forced me
and you know what?
ended up with a 28 >< GRRRRRRR

there's a moral right there, do subjects you love

tom.sharkie · 13 Jan 2008, 3:15 PM

Chiense Isn't too bad tho... Tones are annoying....
Grammar is ok
Sentence structure is relatively similar to english....
I do love chinese, Im just nervous!

ewsh91 · 31 Jan 2008, 9:15 PM

hai all, i'm new here. wanna ask something, hope you all can help me.
I'm finding a saturday school that takes Chinese Second language as VCE subject but can't find one. I live in Roxburgh Park, around Tullamarine. Any1 knows a school that offers Chinese as second language? i'm studying year 11 by the way. Thanks all.

Electioneering · 2 Feb 2008, 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom.sharkie

Sentence structure is relatively similar to english....

No.

wendaYYY · 16 Feb 2008, 11:54 AM

[font="Trebuchet MS"][/FOAH FACK. I BEEN GOING TO CRAPPY LIL CHINESE CLASSES SINCE I WAS 5 WITH TEACHERS WHO DON'T SPEAK A WORD OF ENGLISH (WELL, THEY SPEAK FOB ENGRIT) AND HALF WAY THROUGH LAST YEAR, TEACHER DUMPED A CHINESE SLA BOOK IN FRONT OF ME AND TOLD ME TO FINISH EVERYTHING IN A TERM.

WELL I DID THAT AND NOW I'M ENROLLED IN 3/4 CLASS BEGINNERS WITH ALL THESE PURE-MANDARIN SPEAKING GENIUSES AND I'M THE LIL SQUIRT HANGING OUT IN THE BACK FLABBERGASTED AT EVERYTHING BEING SAID.

TROI OI ...LOLNT]

gk1 · 16 Feb 2008, 7:52 PM

hey dudes,

what does it take to get a 40 (+) in chinese SL??

gk1 · 16 Feb 2008, 7:54 PM

hey dudes,

what does it take to get a 40 (+) in chinese SL??

mei09 · 27 Jan 2009, 4:32 PM

........i'm doing chinese 3/4 this year....my second worst subject -_-'

according to my friends and you guys, getting a good score should be easy, right?

seriously i'll probably get like 25 or something like that raw (maybe less), what can i do to get at least 30+? (i would jump over the moon if i got this score)

Gloamglozer · 27 Jan 2009, 5:59 PM

Actually it's quite the contrary... Well, it depends. If you:

1. Work consistently throughout the year.
2. Practice writing essays on a range of topics that are likely to appear on the exam.
3. Badger your teacher to correct the essays you write and get them to give you contructive criticism.
4. Practice speaking Chinese regularly, in particular the general conversation and detailed study.
5. Practice your aural skills by listening to a range of audio tapes specifically made for VCE Chinese students.
6. Learn the vocabulary list.

Then getting 30+ raw isn't very hard.

9 Oct 2007, 8:23 AM	#31 (permalink)
Omnidragon Devil HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 622 Last Activity: 19 Nov 2009, 3:27 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language You can hide this advertisement by registering. The system's rigged with heaps of Australian-born Chinese who speak fluent Mandarin at home taking Chinese as a Second Language. But they still do so poorly. HAHAHAHAA

9 Oct 2007, 4:09 PM	#32 (permalink)
Cara.Mel Banned HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Location: Fairy land :) Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 79 Last Activity: 30 Dec 2007, 9:48 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language They own us at listening though. So many times we hear a phrase, have no idea what it means, look at the chinese background people and they know it without any effort, and it's annoying because most of them still qualify for SL not SLA. Next year our teacher told us listening on the exam will only be out of 10 marks, not 30. Which should make it a lot fairer, because the other sections are a lot easier

22 Oct 2007, 5:29 PM	#33 (permalink)
Shmeestar New Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Female Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Last Activity: 21 Jan 2009, 10:13 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language Yes you are right about the mistakes in my signature thanks for the heads up I'm totally freaking out right now, my mandarin oral is tomorrow. EEEK! __________________ 2007: Chemistry~Math Methods~Mandarin ~~~~~~~~~~ 2008: English~Psychology~Specialist Mathematics~International Studies~National Politics (Distance Ed) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last edited by Shmeestar; 22 Oct 2007 at 5:45 PM.

8 Jan 2008, 2:56 PM	#34 (permalink)
applekid New Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Female Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2 Last Activity: 31 Dec 2008, 8:58 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language i really don't believe memorising the 600 is absolutely imperative to be honest. i had shocking (absolutely shocking. beyond comprehension really) recall of characters but still did fairly well in chinese. i think that if you know that you wont be able to remember that amount of characters in the year and that your chinese is not as strong as everyone else, then it is more effective to be able to recall them in pin yin, but also to be able to exploit the fact that you have a dictionary alongside, and take notice of effective vocab usage as opposed to just knowing a long list of words that may or may not be worthwhile. but that's just my experience.

12 Jan 2008, 6:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
dooopy Assistant Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Male Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 76 Last Activity: 28 May 2009, 10:00 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language i got 39 for chinese secon lol, my oral examiners asked me reli easy questions

12 Jan 2008, 9:51 PM	#36 (permalink)
tom.sharkie Junior Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2008, 6:18 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language I started chinese in 2007. In a year (well, 10 months) I covered about 4 years of coursework... This year I'm doing chinese by correspondence with the VSL.... I'm really nervous! Any advice?

13 Jan 2008, 3:05 PM	#37 (permalink)
24lover Junior Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Female Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Last Activity: 6 Jul 2009, 11:05 AM	Re: Chinese Second Language grrrrr hate chinese parents forced me and you know what? ended up with a 28 >< GRRRRRRR there's a moral right there, do subjects you love

13 Jan 2008, 3:15 PM	#38 (permalink)
tom.sharkie Junior Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2008, 6:18 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language Chiense Isn't too bad tho... Tones are annoying.... Grammar is ok Sentence structure is relatively similar to english.... I do love chinese, Im just nervous!

31 Jan 2008, 9:15 PM	#39 (permalink)
ewsh91 New Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1 Last Activity: 13 Nov 2008, 5:47 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language hai all, i'm new here. wanna ask something, hope you all can help me. I'm finding a saturday school that takes Chinese Second language as VCE subject but can't find one. I live in Roxburgh Park, around Tullamarine. Any1 knows a school that offers Chinese as second language? i'm studying year 11 by the way. Thanks all.

16 Feb 2008, 11:54 AM	#41 (permalink)
wendaYYY no pain no gain HSC: 2009 Gender: Female Location: Sleaze-borough Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 43 Last Activity: 10 Nov 2009, 1:03 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language [font="Trebuchet MS"][/FOAH FACK. I BEEN GOING TO CRAPPY LIL CHINESE CLASSES SINCE I WAS 5 WITH TEACHERS WHO DON'T SPEAK A WORD OF ENGLISH (WELL, THEY SPEAK FOB ENGRIT) AND HALF WAY THROUGH LAST YEAR, TEACHER DUMPED A CHINESE SLA BOOK IN FRONT OF ME AND TOLD ME TO FINISH EVERYTHING IN A TERM. WELL I DID THAT AND NOW I'M ENROLLED IN 3/4 CLASS BEGINNERS WITH ALL THESE PURE-MANDARIN SPEAKING GENIUSES AND I'M THE LIL SQUIRT HANGING OUT IN THE BACK FLABBERGASTED AT EVERYTHING BEING SAID. TROI OI ...LOLNT]

16 Feb 2008, 7:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
gk1 New Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2 Last Activity: 5 Dec 2008, 6:59 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language hey dudes, what does it take to get a 40 (+) in chinese SL??

16 Feb 2008, 7:54 PM	#43 (permalink)
gk1 New Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2 Last Activity: 5 Dec 2008, 6:59 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language hey dudes, what does it take to get a 40 (+) in chinese SL??

27 Jan 2009, 4:32 PM	#44 (permalink)
mei09 New Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Last Activity: 4 Nov 2009, 10:28 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language ........i'm doing chinese 3/4 this year....my second worst subject -_-' according to my friends and you guys, getting a good score should be easy, right? seriously i'll probably get like 25 or something like that raw (maybe less), what can i do to get at least 30+? (i would jump over the moon if i got this score) __________________ VCE Units 3 & 4 Subjects: 2008: Business Management 2009: English Accounting Japanese SL Chinese SL Maths Methods

27 Jan 2009, 5:59 PM	#45 (permalink)
Gloamglozer Member HSC: 2009 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 145 Last Activity: 14 Jun 2009, 5:53 PM	Re: Chinese Second Language Actually it's quite the contrary... Well, it depends. If you: 1. Work consistently throughout the year. 2. Practice writing essays on a range of topics that are likely to appear on the exam. 3. Badger your teacher to correct the essays you write and get them to give you contructive criticism. 4. Practice speaking Chinese regularly, in particular the general conversation and detailed study. 5. Practice your aural skills by listening to a range of audio tapes specifically made for VCE Chinese students. 6. Learn the vocabulary list. Then getting 30+ raw isn't very hard.

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