So what's the deal with EES Scaling???

[alexandher]

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I've heard it's not that good, like it scales down quite a bit.
Is this true? Because i moved from Biology to EES, not sure if that was such a smart move :S

Someone please get back to me?

Cheers.

[davidbarnes]

Yes, it does scale down. But it is a very easy subject. Certinaly the easiest science subject (apart from Agriculture).

[alexandher]

Originally Posted by davidbarnes

Yes, it does scale down. But it is a very easy subject. Certinaly the easiest science subject (apart from Agriculture).

Alright, so that means, if i do freaking heaps good in the subject, because its so easy, i'll do heaps well yeah.

I don't even get this whole scaling thing. Why does it scale down? Is it because the people who do it are Dummys or something??

I don't want to get a crap UAI because of this aye.

[davidbarnes]

It scales down beacuse it is easy to get high raw marks in it.
Likewise subjects liek Physics, and extensions subjects etc scale up as it is much harder to get high raw marks in them.

If you do good you'll be fine.

[davidbarnes]

Is Senior Science really easier?

[Incubus Man]

Originally Posted by Road Runner

I disagree. Earth scales pretty good if you get marks of 85+

And it's also not the easiest science. ( the easiest science are senior science and agriculture).

It would have been better though if you did both Biology and Earth because some of the things you learn are pretty similar.

Good Luck.

+1

With any subject if you achieve high enough, the scaling is good.

I do Bio and E&E. I wish I'd have done chem and physics instead, but I must've been smoking in year ten when I picked it. Non the less, E&E and Bio are very complimentary subjects. They go better together than cricket and the beach.

[Evilo]

Originally Posted by davidbarnes

Is Senior Science really easier?

yes

[jasonml]

overall it is much easier to get lower marks, but harder to get marks 85+ in EES than in Biology.

as for the actually difficulty levels of the work, i'm finding both Chemistry and Physis quite a bit easier than most of the content in EES.

[davidbarnes]

Originally Posted by jasonml

as for the actually difficulty levels of the work, i'm finding both Chemistry and Physis quite a bit easier than most of the content in EES.

what??? I find that both Chemistry and Physics have heaps more content, and content that is much harder. With Physics, there is a tonne of knowledge of laws, rules, formulas etc that need to be known and applied. Chemsitry requires even more knowledge, and still some calcualtions. E&E Science has (a) not much content to the cource in comparison to Physics or Chemistry or Biology(b) the content is much easier (c) has hardly any calcualtions, meaning that if you know the content you're guranteeed to do well.

Read the E&E Science Sptlight book twice (its only what, 110 pages?) or so and you will know everything you need to know. Not only is E&E Science content basic, but a lot of it is just basic knowledge and common sense. You would have to be a compelte idiot to fail it.

[Road Runner]

Originally Posted by davidbarnes

what??? I find that both Chemistry and Physics have heaps more content, and content that is much harder. With Physics, there is a tonne of knowledge of laws, rules, formulas etc that need to be known and applied. Chemsitry requires even more knowledge, and still some calcualtions. E&E Science has (a) not much content to the cource in comparison to Physics or Chemistry or Biology(b) the content is much easier (c) has hardly any calcualtions, meaning that if you know the content you're guranteeed to do well.

Read the E&E Science Sptlight book twice (its only what, 110 pages?) or so and you will know everything you need to know. Not only is E&E Science content basic, but a lot of it is just basic knowledge and common sense. You would have to be a compelte idiot to fail it.

hey what text book do you use for EES? because we have like separate binder books for each topic.

[isabella-j]

dont worry about scaling
it takes into account your other subjects too
but ees is easier than the other science subjects e.g chem , physics

[jasonml]

Originally Posted by davidbarnes

what??? I find that both Chemistry and Physics have heaps more content, and content that is much harder. With Physics, there is a tonne of knowledge of laws, rules, formulas etc that need to be known and applied. Chemsitry requires even more knowledge, and still some calcualtions. E&E Science has (a) not much content to the cource in comparison to Physics or Chemistry or Biology(b) the content is much easier (c) has hardly any calcualtions, meaning that if you know the content you're guranteeed to do well.

Read the E&E Science Sptlight book twice (its only what, 110 pages?) or so and you will know everything you need to know. Not only is E&E Science content basic, but a lot of it is just basic knowledge and common sense. You would have to be a compelte idiot to fail it.

Have a look at the Caimbridge EES textbook. Then have a look at the Jaccaranda Physics textbook. There is initially WAY more content in the Caimbridge text, and even more when you take into account that nearly half of the stuff in the Jaccaranda is just repeating itself over and over.

Also, it is PHYSICS that involves loads of common sense. It is probably one of the most straight forward sciences. If you have a copy of ANY ONE of the HSC physics textbooks you can virtually teach yourself the entire course. I admit at university-levels, yes, Physics generally does involve more difficult/advanced levels of work compared to Environmental sciences, but not at a HSC level.

EES in a lot of ways, covers some very modern science, so you have to be constantly up to date with new theories, statistics. Also the general style of work is a lot more acedemic, (i.e. geological time-scale, calculating lithospheric movements, not to mention ALL the principals of geology (faunal sucession, superposition, uniformitarianism, original horizontality, etc.).

I agree, Chemistry gets pretty hard in some areas, but when you consider all three subjects at a high-ish HSC level, I think EES is generally hardest!

[jasonml]

and btw, the Spotlight book hardly counts as a text. lol.

[laurasia]

i really recommend the cambridge EES textbook as an essential tool to use while studying EES

[henry08]

Originally Posted by jasonml

Have a look at the Caimbridge EES textbook. Then have a look at the Jaccaranda Physics textbook. There is initially WAY more content in the Caimbridge text, and even more when you take into account that nearly half of the stuff in the Jaccaranda is just repeating itself over and over.

!

I've got the Spotlight E&ES book as well as the Cambridge one. Also have Jacandra Physics. Spotlight E%ES books is real simple, you could learn the netire course from it easily. Cambridge book is much harder (albeit mroe interesting though), althoguh is way too detailed for the course and syllabus. Jacandra Physics textbook easily contaisn a lot mreo content.

There is absolutely no way E&ES is harder than Physics, Chem or Biology.