Commerce/Adv Science

kcchippy · 29 Dec 2005, 11:17 PM

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Okay, so I'm thinking that I want to do a combined degree in adv. science/commerce at USYD and I got a UAI of 99.45 (so it should be ok to do so).

The dilemma is: When I graduate, what are the sort of career options I could expect from such a degree?

If I want a career in the end that is fulfilling, long lasting and also profitable, is this a degree that could realistically provide these things?

Is there a better degree that could provide these things but still maintain the science units.

I'm also looking at UNSW for the same option.

I would also like to study overseas for a semester or so and perhaps even eventually work overseas. Would this degree realistically provide me the opportunity to do so?

kcchippy · 30 Dec 2005, 9:08 PM

HELLOO Can anyone please help me? AT all???

phrred · 31 Dec 2005, 9:31 AM

ill try

do u kno what u wanna major in for the 2 degrees?
Sc would give you the good broad knowledge that employers seek whilst commerce will give u skills for the business sector so i guess its not a bad choice. Do you know if usyd offer adv arts/comm or even arts/comm coz they cud b good choices too unless u hav ur mind set on science. psychology is always a good choice if u plan to interact with people a lot such as in HRM or marketing

Depending on your majors, usyd and unsw would have pretty similar standards for BSc and BComm. There are more options for majors for commerce at unsw tho, have a look thru the UAC guide and see if unsw has something that sydney doesnt that u want to do.

Both unis also have heaps of top uni partners for u to go overseas on exchange. perhaps even comm/arts with a language could be good if u plan to live overseas

ND · 31 Dec 2005, 9:53 AM

If the adv. sci part is math, then the degree would be great for a number of finance careers.

§eraphim · 31 Dec 2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ND

If the adv. sci part is math, then the degree would be great for a number of finance careers.

Nowadays, too many ppl are quantitatively schooled. In terms of graduate positions, it would be cheaper just to employ an Actuarial student (they need less training).

beverly · 31 Dec 2005, 10:43 PM

the sorts of combinations that are great for particular career prospects are
psych with marketing
maths with actuary
biotech with marketing/finance

in terms of usyd vs unsw, usyd is one year extra (5 yrs) so that's a consideration

ND · 1 Jan 2006, 2:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §eraphim

Nowadays, too many ppl are quantitatively schooled. In terms of graduate positions, it would be cheaper just to employ an Actuarial student (they need less training).

Really? I must say that I'm glad to hear that. Are you working with any acst guys at csfb?

§eraphim · 1 Jan 2006, 11:35 PM

No.

"actuaries being cheaper" <-- just my opinion. There have also been some arguments saying that an Actuarial education results in forcing problems into models they know...which is stooopid. But that guy is an Honours student in Maths (formerly actuarial/math)

Also, I remember the Mac Bank HR rep saying that they don't have any preference for actuaries in risk management coz they have small insurance businesses.

So it really depends what you are applying for in the IB.

ND · 1 Jan 2006, 11:49 PM

Ok i see what you're saying. The bad thing about actuarial is that you have to do gay subjects where you have to write essays about the regulation of the superannuation industry and other crap that's extremely boring and completely irrelevant to finance.

§eraphim · 2 Jan 2006, 2:05 PM

I disagree. All the crazy maths belongs in academia, but writing reports,etc is most important for an Analysts' role.

Part 2 is probably good preparation for Part 3 too.

ND · 2 Jan 2006, 6:36 PM

What i meant was that the superannuation industry is really boring and completely irrelevant for someone wanting to get into IB (like myself), not writing essays/reports.

I'm not doing my part 2's or 3's, don't wanna become an actuary.

kcchippy · 2 Jan 2006, 9:42 PM

Thanks phrred and others for your advice. Yes, at one point I was stuck between doing comm/arts or comm/sci, seeing as I also did French at one point and wanted to study a language and do an exchange.

But I also did a lot of science throughout my HSC study, I just don't think i should give up on that completely just yet....

As for majors, I was thinking of doing biomedical science and perhaps doing marketing as a major for commerce. But I'm not exactly dead set on these..I'm still researching, and am still..at this very late stage...very uncertain about my choice of course...

Quintin · 2 Jan 2006, 9:49 PM

work in a drug company?

velox · 2 Jan 2006, 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintin

work in a drug company?

most drug reps are doctors.

kcchippy · 2 Jan 2006, 9:52 PM

Lol, thanks for that valuable piece of information...I'm sure working in a drug company would be many people's dream come true....

29 Dec 2005, 11:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
kcchippy Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Sydney suburbia Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Last Activity: 20 Aug 2008, 9:34 PM	Commerce/Adv Science - What can I do with this? You can hide this advertisement by registering. Okay, so I'm thinking that I want to do a combined degree in adv. science/commerce at USYD and I got a UAI of 99.45 (so it should be ok to do so). The dilemma is: When I graduate, what are the sort of career options I could expect from such a degree? If I want a career in the end that is fulfilling, long lasting and also profitable, is this a degree that could realistically provide these things? Is there a better degree that could provide these things but still maintain the science units. I'm also looking at UNSW for the same option. I would also like to study overseas for a semester or so and perhaps even eventually work overseas. Would this degree realistically provide me the opportunity to do so?

1 Jan 2006, 11:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
§eraphim Trader HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,581 Last Activity: 15 Nov 2009, 8:58 PM	No. "actuaries being cheaper" <-- just my opinion. There have also been some arguments saying that an Actuarial education results in forcing problems into models they know...which is stooopid. But that guy is an Honours student in Maths (formerly actuarial/math) Also, I remember the Mac Bank HR rep saying that they don't have any preference for actuaries in risk management coz they have small insurance businesses. So it really depends what you are applying for in the IB. Last edited by §eraphim; 1 Jan 2006 at 11:40 PM.

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§eraphim Trader HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,581 Last Activity: 15 Nov 2009, 8:58 PM	I disagree. All the crazy maths belongs in academia, but writing reports,etc is most important for an Analysts' role. Part 2 is probably good preparation for Part 3 too. Last edited by §eraphim; 2 Jan 2006 at 2:11 PM.

2 Jan 2006, 9:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
kcchippy Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Sydney suburbia Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Last Activity: 20 Aug 2008, 9:34 PM	Thanks phrred and others for your advice. Yes, at one point I was stuck between doing comm/arts or comm/sci, seeing as I also did French at one point and wanted to study a language and do an exchange. But I also did a lot of science throughout my HSC study, I just don't think i should give up on that completely just yet.... As for majors, I was thinking of doing biomedical science and perhaps doing marketing as a major for commerce. But I'm not exactly dead set on these..I'm still researching, and am still..at this very late stage...very uncertain about my choice of course... __________________ Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein

2 Jan 2006, 9:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
kcchippy Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Sydney suburbia Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Last Activity: 20 Aug 2008, 9:34 PM	Lol, thanks for that valuable piece of information...I'm sure working in a drug company would be many people's dream come true.... __________________ Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein

30 Dec 2005, 9:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
kcchippy Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Sydney suburbia Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Last Activity: 20 Aug 2008, 9:34 PM	HELLOO Can anyone please help me? AT all???

31 Dec 2005, 9:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
phrred Executive Member HSC: 2004 Gender: Male Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 571 Last Activity: 19 Nov 2009, 11:45 AM	ill try do u kno what u wanna major in for the 2 degrees? Sc would give you the good broad knowledge that employers seek whilst commerce will give u skills for the business sector so i guess its not a bad choice. Do you know if usyd offer adv arts/comm or even arts/comm coz they cud b good choices too unless u hav ur mind set on science. psychology is always a good choice if u plan to interact with people a lot such as in HRM or marketing Depending on your majors, usyd and unsw would have pretty similar standards for BSc and BComm. There are more options for majors for commerce at unsw tho, have a look thru the UAC guide and see if unsw has something that sydney doesnt that u want to do. Both unis also have heaps of top uni partners for u to go overseas on exchange. perhaps even comm/arts with a language could be good if u plan to live overseas

31 Dec 2005, 9:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
ND Exalted Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Club Mac. Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 987 Last Activity: 23 Nov 2007, 4:59 PM	If the adv. sci part is math, then the degree would be great for a number of finance careers.

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beverly Member HSC: N/A Gender: Female Location: Sydney Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 120 Last Activity: 7 Jul 2008, 9:49 AM	the sorts of combinations that are great for particular career prospects are psych with marketing maths with actuary biotech with marketing/finance in terms of usyd vs unsw, usyd is one year extra (5 yrs) so that's a consideration

1 Jan 2006, 11:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
ND Exalted Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Club Mac. Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 987 Last Activity: 23 Nov 2007, 4:59 PM	Ok i see what you're saying. The bad thing about actuarial is that you have to do gay subjects where you have to write essays about the regulation of the superannuation industry and other crap that's extremely boring and completely irrelevant to finance.

2 Jan 2006, 6:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
ND Exalted Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Club Mac. Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 987 Last Activity: 23 Nov 2007, 4:59 PM	What i meant was that the superannuation industry is really boring and completely irrelevant for someone wanting to get into IB (like myself), not writing essays/reports. I'm not doing my part 2's or 3's, don't wanna become an actuary.

2 Jan 2006, 9:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Quintin Assistant Member HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Location: Drews Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 54 Last Activity: 19 Aug 2008, 7:56 PM	work in a drug company?

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