Comp Sci and IT

[Mystique1]

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How much Maths is involved in these subjects?
Is it possible to go through doing General Maths? I have all the background knowledge from Software Design and Development so i really do know how to code basically in PHP and VBA but how will i go without 2U maths?

Is the Maths requirement literal or just for the problem solving basis?

[Mystique1]

Yea i saw that, looks like my preferred course atm.

[Hakz]

Well i think comp sci will require more maths then IT. Currently at uow you only have to do 1 math subject in the 1st year for IT and same with comp sci, but before it was different i did math and a statistical subject.

[Mystique1]

Yea the BSc IT at UTS doesnt seem to have much maths =]
I think ill aim for that =]
Thanks for the help Hakz :P

[Makro]

Considering there's already one like this, I'll post here.

What are the significant differences between Csci and IT? Also it appears to me that Csci is more like SDD and IT more like IPT, that is, in terms of the HSC. Would this be a safe assumption?

Are they the only two computing courses? From scanning through courses, they seem to be it, unless I'm looking in the wrong spot.

[Hakz]

Well at uow comp sci is mainly programming based where as Info Tech deals with programming and business oriented topics eg making database for an organisation, creating a programs to support business functions etc.

[Makro]

Csci is more maths oriented right? How bad is it if you don't have the Reccommended subjects? I.e. 3U Maths. I've only got 2U Maths.

[Hakz]

Originally Posted by Makro

Csci is more maths oriented right? How bad is it if you don't have the Recommended subjects? I.e. 3U Maths. I've only got 2U Maths.

well having 2/3unit would be good, but hey its not a big deal. I know two friends who are in there 2nd year of comp sci and did general math at high school

[Makro]

I have 2 unit, which I do fairly well in. I'm asking if it's just insanely hard comparatively.

Also where's the best place? or the best few places?

thanks, again.

[Hakz]

Originally Posted by Makro

I have 2 unit, which I do fairly well in. I'm asking if it's just insanely hard comparatively.

Also where's the best place? or the best few places?

thanks, again.

At UOW the only pure math subject for comp sci is Discrete mathematics. There is also statistics which i also did, but is alright if u do ur work for it.

Well UOW's informatics faculty is well known by Industry and is a up to date faculty, especially the IT/IS sections which also includes comp sci.

Good luck

[Makro]

Any other Unis to toss up between so I can have a closer look at the courses? UOW was the one I initially have thought of.

[Hakz]

Originally Posted by Makro

Any other Unis to toss up between so I can have a closer look at the courses? UOW was the one I initially have thought of.

Well the only other uni that interested me was UTS. They offer B.Sci(IT) and i think also a B.IT.

[Makro]

Alright. Thanks for the help

[Ben1220]

Originally Posted by Mystique1

How much Maths is involved in these subjects?
Is it possible to go through doing General Maths? I have all the background knowledge from Software Design and Development so i really do know how to code basically in PHP and VBA but how will i go without 2U maths?

Is the Maths requirement literal or just for the problem solving basis?

that really depends on the type of course.

A Bachelor of Science with a major in Computer Science, or a Bachelor of Computer Science is completely different from a course in IT

Computer Science actually has little to do with computers, its much more theoretical. A good quote I heard once was "Computer Science has as much to do with computers as Astronomy has to do with telescopes"

You can think of Computer Science as astronomy, the study of what actually happens inside a computer, while IT is the study of telescopes, how to make them, how to use them, Of course this is simplified but its important to realise that there is a pretty big difference between the two.

Some areas of computer science can almost be considered a branch of mathematics, ie theory of computation, analysis of algorithms ect... computer graphics also requires maths.

Computer Science is also, not just about programming, knowledge of programming languages and how they work are of course an area of computer science, but computer science isn't really just about teaching people how to program. Of course lots of the theoretical computer science stuff like discrete maths, theory of computation, complexity classes ect are all very usefull in software development, such as finding more efficient algorithms for certain tasks. Learning how to be a good programmer however is not what computer science is all about, its a science, its much more simular to applied maths then information technology, as long as you think of it as a science you won't get any nasty unexpected surprises when you start learning about algorithm analysis in a lecture hall in the maths department with a lecturer who has no idea about computers or operating systems or the other stuff that people tend to associate with tech savy people.

While this is true about the academic field of computer science, in practice many degrees in computer science have a focus on software engineering and programming, and although maths is usually still required to at least a first year level, there is more of an emphasis on software designing and testing ect, this isn't really computer science, and is more about training people to have a job in the IT industry as opposed to giving them knowledge about an academic field of study, but depending on your interests, you may prefer this.

IT courses focus more on what you would expect in a computing course, how to use computers, I don't know much about what you learn in an IT course, probably stuff on visulisation of data, databases maybe, systems maintainence or malware removal ect, very little use of maths past highschool algebra.

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