Best course for programming?

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[ehtefaz.hedayet]

Originally Posted by semper fidelis

for hsc subjects,

u should choose software design develpoment (SDD)
or information proccess tech (IPT)

make sure u hav a good teacher or u wont learn anythin

n learnin to program is hard unless u tryin to learn real basic or some really easy thing

you mainly need ext 1 maths to get into computer science. But SDD is part of the recommended subjects, IPT is just useless in this case.

[chucknthem]

both SDD and IPT are completely useless.

on SDD:

* Most of it is boring, outdated, and irrelevant at least until you've worked for a couple years (who needs know to know about the 'water fall model'? who's going to understand it or care until you've actually done a bit of software development at a large company (you wont find small companies using it), even then it's only a minuscule subset of software development that most people studying in or working in software will never use!).
* Why only teach sorting algorithms with O(n^2) complexity? they're not interesting at all.
* Most SDD teachers are morons who doesn't know the difference between java and javascript. being taught about software by them might be damaging to your learning
* being a good programmer relies on being intelligent more than the average career[1], SDD is just going to dumb you down, it doesn't attract the right kind of people to computing degrees, in fact, it'll just discourage people with half a brain on their heads from even consider computing.
* it seems standard for SDD to recommend people to use VB or pascal...WHY???? VB (except .NET) is horrible, and pascal is hardly ever used anymore, not even in academic circles which is where you might see other near dead languages lurking, but they're usually more interesting languages than pascal
* Needs more LINUX. I didn't touch linux until uni, but it's a much more friendly environment programming environment[2]

[1] unfortunately it also relies less on social skills than the average career, so you get more awkward people
[2] but linux has a less friendly user environment in most cases

I took a programming subject in high school in the US and absolutely loved it and was almost sure I was going to study computer science. after doing SDD in the HSC, I nearly changed my mind! but now i'm glad I didn't.

so in short, stay away from both IPT and SDD because they'll probably discourage you from doing programming at uni. take harder maths subject, do some science subjects, maybe even business or economics.
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[ehtefaz.hedayet]

Originally Posted by chucknthem

both SDD and IPT are completely useless.

on SDD:

* Most of it is boring, outdated, and irrelevant at least until you've worked for a couple years (who needs know to know about the 'water fall model'? who's going to understand it or care until you've actually done a bit of software development at a large company (you wont find small companies using it), even then it's only a minuscule subset of software development that most people studying in or working in software will never use!).
* Why only teach sorting algorithms with O(n^2) complexity? they're not interesting at all.
* Most SDD teachers are morons who doesn't know the difference between java and javascript. being taught about software by them might be damaging to your learning
* being a good programmer relies on being intelligent more than the average career[1], SDD is just going to dumb you down, it doesn't attract the right kind of people to computing degrees, in fact, it'll just discourage people with half a brain on their heads from even consider computing.
* it seems standard for SDD to recommend people to use VB or pascal...WHY???? VB (except .NET) is horrible, and pascal is hardly ever used anymore, not even in academic circles which is where you might see other near dead languages lurking, but they're usually more interesting languages than pascal
* Needs more LINUX. I didn't touch linux until uni, but it's a much more friendly environment programming environment[2]

[1] unfortunately it also relies less on social skills than the average career, so you get more awkward people
[2] but linux has a less friendly user environment in most cases

I took a programming subject in high school in the US and absolutely loved it and was almost sure I was going to study computer science. after doing SDD in the HSC, I nearly changed my mind! but now i'm glad I didn't.

so in short, stay away from both IPT and SDD because they'll probably discourage you from doing programming at uni. take harder maths subject, do some science subjects, maybe even business or economics.
</rant>

+1

i agree fully with this statement, but SDD discourages me because of my teacher. Repped.