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Originally Posted by rokkuguhyo

I have Christian parents, and went to church for 10 years. Despite all that I was taught about the bible, christian living, etc. I turned against it a couple of years ago, realising for myself that god isn't real.

I came to this conclusion simply by observing: I noticed that most of the Christians at my church, as well as others that I meet, are complete hypocrites, preaching to others about "the right thing to do", according to the bible, when they themselves go against what the bible teaches.

For example, one of the 10 commandments is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". And what's the first thing they do when they gather for a chat? They gossip about other people, saying nasty, malicious, sometimes untrue things, and laughing about it. Then when they see the person they were speaking about, they act all nice, and friendly, and "Christian-like".

I have other examples, but I don't want to turn my post into an essay.

I think that's true with many religions. I'm not a Christian, but I am a theist. I consider my religion/its teachings to be perfect (that's me, not everyone, of course) but I see the same things that you have seen (with the people who claim to follow my religion) within the religion you used to belong to (I'm just assuming you did from what you've said).

What I'm trying to say is, humans are flawed and I don't think you can judge a religion by the people who follow it.

I'm not trying to convert you or convince you that God exists, but just giving you a different perspective. Of course, I realise you may have other reasons why you're an atheist that you haven't put down, but that's your business.

[trickx]

Watched a few debates with Christopher Hitchens not too long ago. The man absolutely dominates Apologetics.

[theism]

Originally Posted by rokkuguhyo

I have Christian parents, and went to church for 10 years. Despite all that I was taught about the bible, christian living, etc. I turned against it a couple of years ago, realising for myself that god isn't real.

sounds to me you were just going through the spiritual motions of christianity. you were either bored in your christian walk, or never even started walking.

Originally Posted by rokkuguhyo

I came to this conclusion simply by observing: I noticed that most of the Christians at my church, as well as others that I meet, are complete hypocrites, preaching to others about "the right thing to do", according to the bible, when they themselves go against what the bible teaches.

Yes.
Chrstian Hypocrisy stinks.

Jesus Christ even acknowledged and rebuked hypocrisy:

Matthew 7:3-5 (New International Version)


3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Originally Posted by rokkuguhyo

For example, one of the 10 commandments is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". And what's the first thing they do when they gather for a chat? They gossip about other people, saying nasty, malicious, sometimes untrue things, and laughing about it. Then when they see the person they were speaking about, they act all nice, and friendly, and "Christian-like".

Yes it stinks.

but don't let them be an example of what God is.
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Let the character of Jesus Christ be your wittness, not your hypocritical sunday christian friends.

if you have to choose someone, or a group to be your wittness,
take a look at the african americans.
they were bought from africa to america, to be slaves.
yet they did not let the christian hypocrisy.. their 'white masters', who proclaimed to be christians, to distract them from the character of Jesus Christ.

[mcflystargirl]

the sad fact is many people who claim to be christians are complete hypocrites, the thing is this ruins the perception that of the christians who are not.

[disorder]

Eh?
Yes I am, and anyone who ever asks or talks about religion knows. I see no issue with sharing my beliefs, or lack thereof.

[Daipire]

I'm a true athiest, it's not that i don't like religion, it's that i don't like the religious.

Christians with their passive manipulative ways to convert you, even if they don't acknowledge it, the prayers and saying grace are basically the christians trying to force their religion on us. I hate christians, I really do.

I've been going to a christian school since year 4, and i loathe god because of it.

[Uncle]

evangelists are watching this thread right now and so is satan and his partner saddam hussein.

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Originally Posted by access_denied

I think that's true with many religions. I'm not a Christian, but I am a theist. I consider my religion/its teachings to be perfect (that's me, not everyone, of course) but I see the same things that you have seen (with the people who claim to follow my religion) within the religion you used to belong to (I'm just assuming you did from what you've said).

What I'm trying to say is, humans are flawed and I don't think you can judge a religion by the people who follow it.

I'm not trying to convert you or convince you that God exists, but just giving you a different perspective. Of course, I realise you may have other reasons why you're an atheist that you haven't put down, but that's your business.

I respect those of any faith or of no faith. Im orthodox, I strongly believe in God and everything that my church teaches. However, I did stop going to church for two years due to the bloody arabs at my church that are hypocrites and just bitch about everyone. As a Christian, in those two years i found that i was feeling so empty, i started going to church again this year and im loving it and i've just learnt to overlook and ingore the older arabs that are everything that our church teaches us NOT to be. Whatever it is you believe in, don't let humanity detter you from it.

[gorgeoussmile]

Originally Posted by mcflystargirl

the sad fact is many people who claim to be christians are complete hypocrites, the thing is this ruins the perception that of the christians who are not.

and there is more of the hypocritical christians then there are of the real ones... it's sad, but all we can do is try to be better christians..

[sydchick]

I'm atheist. No one thinks anything of it. I mean, what can they do? Disown me? I don't think so.

[Hollowminds]

Im atheist, allways have been. I take religion education at a catholic school so im somewhat exposed to a religious community. But it doesnt do too much for me and i dont want or need to join a faith. Or im just apathetic to the topic and dont know enough about it to label myself anything.

[alex.leon]

To be religious you have to be blissfully ignorant.

Also, the concept of faith is built on human insecurity.



Bring on the haters.