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    Re: Fairfield Troung's recommendation - English

    Some of my friends went to Truong's. Some improved immensely, but some suffered greatly and would be on the brink of tears before even entering class, such was the extent of their humiliation.

    Good sides and bad sides to everybody, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebla View Post
    I heard they don't offer 2 unit Maths, just Ext1 and Ext2...is this true?
    Yeah this is true. Sir only teaches MX1 and MX2.
    However most of his students from Years 7-10 develop mathematical skills which allow them to be capable of at least MX1.

    I remember in Year 9 I thought I was going to do 2U mathematics, now I'm doing 4u.

    Quote Originally Posted by littleyam View Post
    towards this thread, there have been many post defending Ngo's and sons, showing the he is a great tutor. I have to say so to, i didn't do well in the entrance exam - really poor (i think < 50%) but he still accepted me because i was willing to learn. My marks went from the 50% range to > 90%. I use to think that i would do 2 unit maths because of my poor marks that i have been getting but after going troung, my marks shots up and now im doing 4unit. Isnt it amazing? Plus, i am a female student and asks him alot of questions and he even told me i was annoying and cause trouble but still answers my question even though it is quite obvious. Thus, he is not sexist as he has complimented my before he just jokes around.

    Some of my friends got rejected or expelled too, I sympathise for them but its one's determination that gets you through the HSC like "mandy-lee" said.

    Even though, you may have many opinions about him, but i dont that your opinions or view matter because you have not:
    1. been to his class or spoken to him
    2. Sometimes people can exaggerate things like your niece maybe because she's still young and may not remember exactly what happened
    3. As your perspectives are based upon "other" people view that may have been rejected and are angry about it or expelled.
    4. It can be one's fault for not self-studying well enough because sir always says after to you write down the theory go home and revise.
    5. Sir always encourage students to ask questions (He wants people to ask) because he always, repetitively ask do you have any question? is there anything you dont understand?
    6. He is very kind and give a lending hand because he cares for his students - this is evident because he is always free to talk to HSC students having problems
    7. your opinions is simply invaild

    I'm sorry if i have offended you in anyway but this what i honestly feel about sir because he has helped me improve in maths and made me a better person. I'm sure some students could of turned out to be gansters but they didnt thanks to him.

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    Re: Truong's tutoring, any comments?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleyam View Post
    Even though, you may have many opinions about him, but i dont that your opinions or view matter because you have not:
    1. been to his class or spoken to him
    2. Sometimes people can exaggerate things like your niece maybe because she's still young and may not remember exactly what happened
    3. As your perspectives are based upon "other" people view that may have been rejected and are angry about it or expelled.
    4. It can be one's fault for not self-studying well enough because sir always says after to you write down the theory go home and revise.
    5. Sir always encourage students to ask questions (He wants people to ask) because he always, repetitively ask do you have any question? is there anything you dont understand?
    6. He is very kind and give a lending hand because he cares for his students - this is evident because he is always free to talk to HSC students having problems
    7. your opinions is simply invaild

    I'm sorry if i have offended you in anyway but this what i honestly feel about sir because he has helped me improve in maths and made me a better person. I'm sure some students could of turned out to be gansters but they didnt thanks to him.

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    I hope my comments helped your understanding of Ngo and sons!
    I don't have personal experience with Truong. I always said that he looked like doing very well and very good at what he was doing. I am 1/2 a generation older than him and we do very well ourselves. I would never have personal experience with tutors because my kid is always at or near top of every class (as I was used to be when I was young). I accept that my opinions may sound "negative" to tutors as I would never have any need for their services. My nieces are not that fortunate. They went to various coaching places and Truong was one of them. I did not like some of the things I heard but I fully understand that a business does not have to please every one. I don't have any problem with tutors but I wish they don't force kids to rely too much hardwork to succeed. I don't like it I look at the amount of home work they force on the kids and threaten to expell the kids if they don't complete the homework on regular basis. In fact, when my niece did not do school homework because she had to complete coaching homework, her public school called the parents in and demanded to know why she did not do school homework. The burden of school homework and coaching homework (which is often 3 times the amount of school homework) look unbearable on the kids.

    Aussies are right when they comlain against havign 30 in a class and the massive homework load. That's what called cramping. And it's purely designed for kids to get past the gate of Universities. Once inside, many are lost as to how to continue. I think it would be better to have a balance of hardwork and creativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasfree View Post
    I don't have personal experience with Truong. I always said that he looked like doing very well and very good at what he was doing. I am 1/2 a generation older than him and we do very well ourselves. I would never have personal experience with tutors because my kid is always at or near top of every class (as I was used to be when I was young). I accept that my opinions may sound "negative" to tutors as I would never have any need for their services. My nieces are not that fortunate. They went to various coaching places and Truong was one of them. I did not like some of the things I heard but I fully understand that a business does not have to please every one. I don't have any problem with tutors but I wish they don't force kids to rely too much hardwork to succeed. I don't like it I look at the amount of home work they force on the kids and threaten to expell the kids if they don't complete the homework on regular basis. In fact, when my niece did not do school homework because she had to complete coaching homework, her public school called the parents in and demanded to know why she did not do school homework. The burden of school homework and coaching homework (which is often 3 times the amount of school homework) look unbearable on the kids.

    Aussies are right when they comlain against havign 30 in a class and the massive homework load. That's what called cramping. And it's purely designed for kids to get past the gate of Universities. Once inside, many are lost as to how to continue. I think it would be better to have a balance of hardwork and creativity.
    I know I've been posting on this thread for quite a bit, but there are just some points which I want to respond to. A lot of people, not just you, complain on how tutors force you to do their homework and not school work. That's a complete lie. Tutoring is additional homework to supplement, not replace school work.

    I don't know about other tutors, but Truong definitely cares about the work and expectations set by the school. If a student has too much school homework and is unable to complete it - they do not get expelled, as long as the parents call Sir. That is one of the first things he said - however I've always managed to find the time to complete it. Also when we have exams, Sir doesn't give us homework.

    Lastly, with your statement about students coping in University. Just because a student has a tutor during high school - doesn't mean that we will not be able to cope. If you didn't know - our tutoring is actually called 'Ngo and Sons Coaching Academy' and as the name suggests, we're not really a tutition - therefore we don't get spoonfed like other tutors. We are actually expected to try and develop an understanding. Also with your use of the term 'Aussie'. Firstly, we are all equally Australian. Secondly, not everyone in our tutoring centre is Vietnamese - we're mixed and that includes 'Aussies'.
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    Re: Truong's tutoring, any comments?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-derivative View Post
    I know I've been posting on this thread for quite a bit, but there are just some points which I want to respond to. A lot of people, not just you, complain on how tutors force you to do their homework and not school work. That's a complete lie. Tutoring is additional homework to supplement, not replace school work.

    I don't know about other tutors, but Truong definitely cares about the work and expectations set by the school. If a student has too much school homework and is unable to complete it - they do not get expelled, as long as the parents call Sir. That is one of the first things he said - however I've always managed to find the time to complete it. Also when we have exams, Sir doesn't give us homework.

    Lastly, with your statement about students coping in University. Just because a student has a tutor during high school - doesn't mean that we will not be able to cope. If you didn't know - our tutoring is actually called 'Ngo and Sons Coaching Academy' and as the name suggests, we're not really a tutition - therefore we don't get spoonfed like other tutors. We are actually expected to try and develop an understanding. Also with your use of the term 'Aussie'. Firstly, we are all equally Australian. Secondly, not everyone in our tutoring centre is Vietnamese - we're mixed and that includes 'Aussies'.

    Its true we do have Caucasian people in our tutoring centre. What you learn from the Academy is the respect and discipline, which you don't find often in the world today. It is easily noticeable to compare a 'Truong Student' in comparison to another ordinary person. If you look around in the world today most children don't show and respect what so ever to their parents. By going to the Academy, this crucial human skill is learnt.

    To sum it up theirs nothing wrong about going to "truong". The amount of homework given to us is not too much for us too handle. If you can't cope with the amount of homework you get now, then how do you think its possible for someone to cope with the load given at uni?. Basically what "Truong" wants to aim for, is too bring the best education for your kids and prepare them for the future.

    Isn't that what we all want ? A better future
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    I must say Truong is one of the most exceptional tuitions I have ever attended.
    Thursday class FTW!
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    Re: Truong's tutoring, any comments?

    I'd really love to try him out but am intimidated because I'm no where near the top shot students (struggling, even).

    However, as I said, I'd really love to try him. I have heard he's not accepting anymore Year 11 students at this stage. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ieatbarbies View Post
    I'd really love to try him out but am intimidated because I'm no where near the top shot students (struggling, even).

    However, as I said, I'd really love to try him. I have heard he's not accepting anymore Year 11 students at this stage. Is this true?
    Firstly, you shouldn't be intimidated of sir. He's a very nice person and is usually very soft on you if you're new. Also he still is accepting Year 11s (he's accepting 5 new people next week - from what I've heard), but the waiting list is long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iSplicer View Post
    And did I mention Truong loves me? He's always patting my back or ruffling my hair... mainly because I am respectful towards him, and I am sorta cheeky when he's in a good mood, and he seems to love it!

    Him: You go to another Math tutor don't you?
    Me: No, Sir.
    Him: I'll follow you after the class to see where you go!
    Me: There will be no need for that, Sir. Why would I want another tutor when I have you?

    *He bursts into laughter*

    So yeah, Sir is no where near that authoritative totalitarian people believe him to be,.
    LOL....cute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-derivative View Post
    Firstly, you shouldn't be intimidated of sir. He's a very nice person and is usually very soft on you if you're new. Also he still is accepting Year 11s (he's accepting 5 new people next week - from what I've heard), but the waiting list is long.
    Oh REALLY? Thanks so much. Hmm, I'm really thinking about it now, even with a waiting list. I mean, I do have a chance of getting in by being on the list than not right?

    Uhmm could I have his number by any chance?

    Thanks

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    Ha. Got it, will make 'rents call soon. Can't hurt to try right?

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    Re: Truong's tutoring, any comments?

    Can anyone pm me this tutoring's address?

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    samee, pm please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-derivative View Post
    I agree completely with this post.
    The important thing is whether his students are happy with his services - and the large majority of students would say yes - I know I'm very happy with Truong's teaching. In my opinion - everybody has a different way of learning - some methods may work for you, some might not. Just because a method doesn't work for you - or if you do not agree with a method - doesn't mean it is bad or ineffective.

    Also with the comment with iSplicer - most of us know that he's just joking around. Most of his favourite students (in my classes especially) are girls so he's definately not sexist.




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    Re: Truong's tutoring, any comments?

    I'm a current year eleven student of truong as well. I personally think he's really nice, like, seriously SO nice. he won't ever yell at you for being stupid, but for bad manners, or if you don't listen in class. Like someone mentioned before, he accepts people not purely based on how they go in the test, but also your character and the manners you have. Tip: bow to him when you first see him and when you leave. It also helps if you have friends already in the tuition.

    He's a great teacher, explains things really clear and encourages questions. He also has a knack for explaining things in a way that makes sense? He's very funny, and lessons are enjoyable (albeit stressful sometimes, but that's okay).

    He's not sexist, but makes sexist jokes. It's all in good fun though, it's not like he means it.

    Just as something extra, he has english and science tutoring as well, in case you're interested. I haven't tried science, but english is good too.
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    Re: Fairfield Troung's recommendation - English

    I went to Ms Diab for english tutoring. I dno, she seems to know her stuff really well and all that but I can't help but feel that it was sort of wasted. Lessons generally involve a lot of talking and you aren't as productive as you could be. For example, when we're supposed to be doing comprehension or whatever we end up talking a whole lot of crap. And she never really marks anything? Like she tells us to hand in some work at the end of the lesson or something but it never comes back to us.
    Also homework is never set. Or, when it is, noone does it.

    However she is really good at teaching comprehension - ie reading task for paper 1.
    completely agree 100%.
    takes her a while to get things back to us, and she does often go off on tangents, but she's very busy. She teaches at several places I think, and she's pregnant, so it must be a bit of a strain.
    She's an excellent teacher though: very clear, teaches us what we need to know, I've learnt a lot from her.
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    Ms. Diab is an exceptional teacher. She is a fair marker, giving appropriate feedback for your work. I like the fact that she goes through the rubric really well and that she addresses the common mistakes students make so they can improve. She gives practice for what is going to be tested in the HSC. e.g. as mentioned before, reading task paper 1 and writing for Area of Study.
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    Yea true, Sir's student get 90+ for maths
    I remember last week I was reading a newspaper. And our teacher Miss Katie Lam (If I remember right), she's 5th in state for Biology. and I was like "WOW" LOL. Each and everyone of The Bigger Sir's teacher are VERY VERY good. They teach you with all their ability. LOL I've been with sir for nearly 3 or 4 years now and I can tell that my maths is flying up... I remember when sir still teach us, LOL IT WAS THE BEST TIME. He gave jokes through out the lesson to make us forget about the stress he gives. LOL
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    lol she's my tutor teacher. quite funny and pregnant atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyborg View Post
    lol she's my tutor teacher. quite funny and pregnant atm.

    What??? pregnant? really?... I don't think so... i saw her on friday last week..she look normal...

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    How much faster is Truong's teaching compared to school? Does he give tests often? I think I might go there but it's just that if he's too slow, then what's the point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveapple View Post
    I'm a current year eleven student of truong as well. I personally think he's really nice, like, seriously SO nice. he won't ever yell at you for being stupid, but for bad manners, or if you don't listen in class. Like someone mentioned before, he accepts people not purely based on how they go in the test, but also your character and the manners you have. Tip: bow to him when you first see him and when you leave. It also helps if you have friends already in the tuition.

    He's a great teacher, explains things really clear and encourages questions. He also has a knack for explaining things in a way that makes sense? He's very funny, and lessons are enjoyable (albeit stressful sometimes, but that's okay).

    He's not sexist, but makes sexist jokes. It's all in good fun though, it's not like he means it.

    Just as something extra, he has english and science tutoring as well, in case you're interested. I haven't tried science, but english is good too.
    It's tough i hear O_O but good.
    I hear you can't have dyed hair and stuff though? He'll kick you out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebla View Post
    I heard they don't offer 2 unit Maths, just Ext1 and Ext2...is this true?
    He does offer 2U Maths, when you get into Year 12 instead of moving on with your class, you go back to the year 11 class because the 2u course is generally covered in year 10 - 11
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyMUFFINS View Post
    It's tough i hear O_O but good.
    I hear you can't have dyed hair and stuff though? He'll kick you out ?
    If you have dyed hair and you're MALE or you're male and have a piercing, then he won't accept you.
    And if you don't want to risk being kicked out (and you're male), don't dye your hair or get a piercing

    He's not sexist, they're just his values.

    And yes, the classes can be tough but they're also very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by studentcheese View Post
    How much faster is Truong's teaching compared to school? Does he give tests often? I think I might go there but it's just that if he's too slow, then what's the point...
    It depends on the order that your school teaches the topics in, but in general tutoring will go faster than school.
    (He finishes the course with a few months to spare to revise before the HSC exams)

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