Why selective school kids need tutors?

[eriito]

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Originally Posted by midnightpen

I agree with redbread, most students go to tutoring for the advantage of learning the course twice, deepening their understanding.

This.

Although for me it's like I'm learning it once because my school teachers are idiots.

[oh-em-gee]

I'm not going to quote anyone, because I don't feel like starting a war.

Entrance scroes have such little bearing on the child's performance later. It is all about how they apply themselves at school. If your kid doesn't like school, they could go to James Ruse and get tutoring in every subject they do and still come up last. If you want to learn, your scores will reflect that. If you learn smart, rather than long and repetitively, you'll reap the rewards.

Seriously. If your child needs a tutor to keep up, maybe you should reconsider their placement at a selective school. I have never had tutoring for any subject since Year 7, (and that was for ONE term,) and I'm easily ranked above average in my school for all of my subjects. Heck, even ranked in the Top 25% for most of my subjects.

I think bolstering your child's marks using tutoring is the worst way for them to learn. They will learn to be dependent on other people to tell the what to do, how to study, and that that is all you need to succeed in life. It isn't.

The money spent on tutoring would be better spent on revision guides, and perhaps learning software. The only way that learning sticks is through developing a personal desire to learn. Of course, if you're sending your child to a tutoring college because they love learning (which I highly doubt) then you, and they, should be commended for the dedication and attitude. If they're tutoring because they feel that they're falling behind, then no problem. But forcing them to do so, because "you only want what's best for them" or so they can get a high-paying job as a doctor or lawyer is not the way to go.

Yes, I love my parents to death, they have been so supportive of me for the last twelve-ish years of school. They've always looked for ways for me to broaden my knowledge, although my primary school lacked what I'm given to understand is an Opportunity Class for more "intelligent" pupils - which, by the way, has absolutely failed to reflect in the examination results, as a general observation - and I have always been content with what I've learned. Why? Because I've learned it, not because it means my rank goes up two places or my projected salary hits six figures.

So yes, tutoring is for the people who have fallen behind. But a poor teacher is not an excuse, it is about the attitude that you bring to class. Disagree? Well, it us self-evident everywhere - if it wasn't attitude that determines how effective someone is perceived to be at their meilleux, then why is there such a diverse opinion on politicians, celebrities, teachers? If you don't like your teacher, suck it up, you need to learn, or else you shouldn't be in school, and your parents have failed you. If your parents had nurtured a love of learning and self-growth in you, then there would be no problem - you would take your work home with you and learn on your own, asking friends for help if you ened to. Personally, I find that the best way is to ask one of the other teachers of that subject.

The ONE exception to this rule is in the case of non-native speakers of a language - they should be permitted, and indeed encouraged to seek contact from those who are native speakers; I don't do this, but the three people ranked above me do. So do three of the people ranked below me. Doesn't mean that they aren't as good, just means I'm better.

On that note, I thought I would say that for those people who put all their blood, sweat, tears and an extraordinary amount of effort and stress into their subjects, and still don't do well, they might have a problem with the course in general - perhaps they just aren't suited for Mathematics Extension 2.

I also recall someone mentioning something about learning answer by rote in humanities. If you're unaware, the English paper this year screwed over a great proportion of the state because it essentially attacked those who had memorised their (or others'!) essays and therefore did not have the depth of knowledge to focus on only one of their supplementary texts.

So, for a quick finish (finally!), just... don't live through your kids. Don't destroy your children's dreams so they can live yours. And, to those students reading this who do get tutoring, I hope you're happy with the fact that there's a good chance I'd do better than you, anyway.

[4025808]

Originally Posted by oasfree

Most of the students who only scrape in (through waiting lists) struggle badly to get high marks.

Incorrect. I was a reserve for Ryde Secondary, yet I managed to score well in Geography and History and even get at least average for the grade in all my subjects. My friend was also a reserve for Ryde Secondary, and today he is coming within the top 10 of the school.

My class was the class that was the 'reserve' class in terms of determining where the students would go to. Initially, we didn't perform as well as the 'offer' class in a lot of subjects except Geography, however as years passed by, half of the students in the reserve class did better than the offer class and the average marks were rising every year for the 'reserve' class. Then later, me as a reserve for Ryde Secondary, managed to top the grade in Geography for the 1st semester, and then come 2nd for the 2nd semester (my other reserve friend came first in 2nd semester =P).

So afterall, that's not true because there are always hardworking and intelligent people in different groups, yet they may have just missed out for a straight offer for a Selective class.

Source: personal experience.

[eriito]

Originally Posted by 4025808

Incorrect. I was a reserve for Ryde Secondary, yet I managed to score well in Geography and History and even get at least average for the grade in all my subjects. My friend was also a reserve for Ryde Secondary, and today he is coming within the top 10 of the school.

My class was the class that was the 'reserve' class in terms of determining where the students would go to. Initially, we didn't perform as well as the 'offer' class in a lot of subjects except Geography, however as years passed by, half of the students in the reserve class did better than the offer class and the average marks were rising every year for the 'reserve' class. Then later, me as a reserve for Ryde Secondary, managed to top the grade in Geography for the 1st semester, and then come 2nd for the 2nd semester (my other reserve friend came first in 2nd semester =P).

So afterall, that's not true because there are always hardworking and intelligent people in different groups, yet they may have just missed out for a straight offer for a Selective class.

Source: personal experience.

Ryde is a shit selective school though. I also was a reserve student for Ryde and I managed to perform quite well, I guess.

[dp624]

Originally Posted by oh-em-gee

The money spent on tutoring would be better spent on revision guides, and perhaps learning software.

lol learning software imo is terrible. anything involving learning on pc -> procrastination e.g. facebook since internet is only one click away :P

Originally Posted by oh-em-gee

And, to those students reading this who do get tutoring, I hope you're happy with the fact that there's a good chance I'd do better than you, anyway.

lol. seriously :P

[tommykins]

Originally Posted by oh-em-gee

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lol k screenshot us ur uai when u get it then.

[killthechicken]

shut the fuck up you dumbcunt asian who goes to fort street

there are some mad gangas from there but

[4025808]

Originally Posted by eriito

Ryde is a shit selective school though. I also was a reserve student for Ryde and I managed to perform quite well, I guess.

yeah well good thing is that I'm leaving though... since it is shit compared to other schools, not just academic wise, but the lack of opportunities available for senior students to succeed in HSC imo...