Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method?

seremify007 · 1 Feb 2006, 11:06 AM

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Which one do you use?

I feel like a n00b not knowing which one is which... I just keep my hands at 9 and 3, and then turn... if I need to turn more, i lift the hand up and pull down again *shrugs*

Dumsum · 1 Feb 2006, 11:19 AM

Hand over hand you will cross your arms over and usually -only- pull. Push pull both hands will stay on their respective sides of the wheel.

Push pull is much safer, if you get into an accident. Reason being is that if your arm is over the wheel when the airbag explodes, there is a high chance of you whacking yourself in the head. Airbags are violent things, so it's quite possible to severely injure yourself.

At a defensive driving course I was taught something slightly different again. Both hands stay on their respective sides of the wheel, but you only ever pull. Say you want to turn right, you would move your right hand up and pull down. To exit out of the turn reach up with your left hand and pull down. Never let the wheel spin back by itself, and only ever be turning the wheel with one hand.

Shell · 1 Feb 2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumsum

Hand over hand you will cross your arms over and usually -only- pull. Push pull both hands will stay on their respective sides of the wheel.

Push pull is much safer, if you get into an accident. Reason being is that if your arm is over the wheel when the airbag explodes, there is a high chance of you whacking yourself in the head. Airbags are violent things, so it's quite possible to severely injure yourself.

At a defensive driving course I was taught something slightly different again. Both hands stay on their respective sides of the wheel, but you only ever pull. Say you want to turn right, you would move your right hand up and pull down. To exit out of the turn reach up with your left hand and pull down. Never let the wheel spin back by itself, and only ever be turning the wheel with one hand.

YES! my dad is an instructor at those defence driving courses and he taught me the exact same way. Your right arm is called your 'leading arm', and he says i have a perfect leading arm.

im doing the stage one course next wed! YESS! cant wait. lol. for free too MUAHAHA

king_of_boredom · 1 Feb 2006, 11:26 AM

i use hand over hand, ACTUALLY a more hybrid version of both hand over hand and push pull which is super effective and never fails.

petar13 · 1 Feb 2006, 1:14 PM

I've become addicted to using a steering wheel spinner that came with the car. I doubt it's any good for high speed/dangerous situations....

http://www.autobarn.net/8356.html

EDIT: I'm not even sure if these things are legal....

Captain Gh3y · 1 Feb 2006, 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumsum

Hand over hand you will cross your arms over and usually -only- pull. Push pull both hands will stay on their respective sides of the wheel.

Push pull is much safer, if you get into an accident. Reason being is that if your arm is over the wheel when the airbag explodes, there is a high chance of you whacking yourself in the head. Airbags are violent things, so it's quite possible to severely injure yourself.

At a defensive driving course I was taught something slightly different again. Both hands stay on their respective sides of the wheel, but you only ever pull. Say you want to turn right, you would move your right hand up and pull down. To exit out of the turn reach up with your left hand and pull down. Never let the wheel spin back by itself, and only ever be turning the wheel with one hand.

That method sounds less than useful when you're driving a 1970's Ford station wagon with no power steering.

Shell · 1 Feb 2006, 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Gh3y

That method sounds less than useful when you're driving a 1970's Ford station wagon with no power steering.

lol yes, thats true. my car is an early 80's falcon, but has power steering to its easy

seremify007 · 1 Feb 2006, 2:14 PM

I'm driving a Terios (ie. have to turn a lot more to achieve the same turn) and I find myself having my hands below 3 and 9 sometimes when I turn... I know it's partially dangerous because that means I can not turn any further, but is this against the rules (ie. can I fail if I do this in the test)? Sometimes I also do that thing (mentioned above) where you lift your hand up and then pull down to do the turn if the turn is too much for me to do with the first method of just going as far as I can without having to move my hands off the wheel.

Shell · 1 Feb 2006, 2:18 PM

i dont think its an instant fail in the pz test if you turn the wheel a certain way. i mean, everyone has their own style. But you may lose points if its not a very safe way.

bowman · 1 Feb 2006, 2:30 PM

i use both methods depending on how i am driving, an what situation i am in

DaddyK · 1 Feb 2006, 2:50 PM

I just flick the steering wheel around. I'm pretty certain that those wheel handle spinners are illegal.

iamsickofyear12 · 1 Feb 2006, 2:57 PM

I mostly drive with 1 hand. So when I turn I start to turn with that hand and once that gets too low I use the other hand to finish the turn. Sometimes I'll push my palm onto the edge of the wheel and do the whole turn with one hand. I always let it spin back by itself.

It's not the right way of doing it but it works for me.

... I was told by my driving instructor to use hand over hand when turning slow corners and push/pull when going faster.

seremify007 · 1 Feb 2006, 3:19 PM

What did you guys do in your P's tests?

iamsickofyear12 · 1 Feb 2006, 3:22 PM

In your P's test you should use hand over hand for slow turns and push/pull for bends.

Pace_T · 1 Feb 2006, 4:06 PM

i use push pull steering in all situations
my instructor told me that hand over hand is how girls drive

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seremify007 JaCe'd 華人 HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Location: Sydney, Australia Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,128 Last Activity: Yesterday, 10:33 PM	Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? You can hide this advertisement by registering. Which one do you use? I feel like a n00b not knowing which one is which... I just keep my hands at 9 and 3, and then turn... if I need to turn more, i lift the hand up and pull down again shrugs __________________ 2000-05 BHHS Extension 1 Mathematics, Advance English, Economics, Business Studies, IPT (State ranking) UAI: 97 2006-09 UNSW B Commerce (Accounting/Finance)

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petar13 Tanzkommandant HSC: N/A Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 336 Last Activity: 3 May 2007, 5:16 PM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? I've become addicted to using a steering wheel spinner that came with the car. I doubt it's any good for high speed/dangerous situations.... http://www.autobarn.net/8356.html EDIT: I'm not even sure if these things are legal.... __________________ MBBS I University of Adelaide

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seremify007 JaCe'd 華人 HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Location: Sydney, Australia Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,128 Last Activity: Yesterday, 10:33 PM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? I'm driving a Terios (ie. have to turn a lot more to achieve the same turn) and I find myself having my hands below 3 and 9 sometimes when I turn... I know it's partially dangerous because that means I can not turn any further, but is this against the rules (ie. can I fail if I do this in the test)? Sometimes I also do that thing (mentioned above) where you lift your hand up and then pull down to do the turn if the turn is too much for me to do with the first method of just going as far as I can without having to move my hands off the wheel. __________________ 2000-05 BHHS Extension 1 Mathematics, Advance English, Economics, Business Studies, IPT (State ranking) UAI: 97 2006-09 UNSW B Commerce (Accounting/Finance)

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Shell Boo Hoo HSC: 2005 Gender: Female Location: Camden Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,179 Last Activity: 9 Jul 2009, 8:19 AM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? i dont think its an instant fail in the pz test if you turn the wheel a certain way. i mean, everyone has their own style. But you may lose points if its not a very safe way. __________________

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iamsickofyear12 Demigod of Waffle HSC: 2004 Gender: Male Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,990 Last Activity: 5 Jul 2009, 1:08 PM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? I mostly drive with 1 hand. So when I turn I start to turn with that hand and once that gets too low I use the other hand to finish the turn. Sometimes I'll push my palm onto the edge of the wheel and do the whole turn with one hand. I always let it spin back by itself. It's not the right way of doing it but it works for me. ... I was told by my driving instructor to use hand over hand when turning slow corners and push/pull when going faster. __________________ When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the fire department generally uses water.

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seremify007 JaCe'd 華人 HSC: 2005 Gender: Male Location: Sydney, Australia Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,128 Last Activity: Yesterday, 10:33 PM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? What did you guys do in your P's tests? __________________ 2000-05 BHHS Extension 1 Mathematics, Advance English, Economics, Business Studies, IPT (State ranking) UAI: 97 2006-09 UNSW B Commerce (Accounting/Finance)

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iamsickofyear12 Demigod of Waffle HSC: 2004 Gender: Male Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,990 Last Activity: 5 Jul 2009, 1:08 PM	Re: Hand over Hand vs. Pull/Push steering method? In your P's test you should use hand over hand for slow turns and push/pull for bends. __________________ When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the fire department generally uses water.

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