Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007

falcon07 · 14 May 2007, 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLadyDisdain

Did you do the ACL? How many assessments for Latin do you have this term?
@Sheepy: Try the Board again? Or we can ask Dr Mc Lovely to look into it for us, I suppose... Prelim cohort was 232...I want how many genii dropped, 'ey?

I received my ACL result today, I received gold along with 2 others

If it helps, 2 dropped from our class at the end of year 11.
My next Latin exam is in a week, Livy up to chapter 9 and Virgil up to 634, grammar, commentary, unseen. We're only about 30 lines from the end of Virgil, then we'll have to do Livy every lesson.

schmoo · 15 May 2007, 11:03 AM

hello chaps! (hello liv, watch me post!)

reading through a lot of the threads on this forum, it would seem that at SCEGGS we're not the only latin class that, erm, doesn't make quite enough use of their class time. is this true for you guys as well? do you find you get completely off-track during the lesson and then you have a whole heap to revise/learn at home? if not, our class should probably pull our socksies up ... but it's all so text based that it's so tempting to leave it all til later ...

also seems to be a common theme that we all hate unseens. do you guys find that practice is really the only way to improve on these?

have a good week of latin, kids!

LivC · 15 May 2007, 6:12 PM

hey hey...nice to see you sarah!

Gwendoline Marr · 16 May 2007, 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by schmoo

hello chaps! (hello liv, watch me post!)

reading through a lot of the threads on this forum, it would seem that at SCEGGS we're not the only latin class that, erm, doesn't make quite enough use of their class time. is this true for you guys as well? do you find you get completely off-track during the lesson and then you have a whole heap to revise/learn at home? if not, our class should probably pull our socksies up ... but it's all so text based that it's so tempting to leave it all til later ...

also seems to be a common theme that we all hate unseens. do you guys find that practice is really the only way to improve on these?

have a good week of latin, kids!

(I do Latin at Steph's school, btw) No, we aren't too productive. We have oxen of wondrous beauty falling off waterfalls, naked young men at gay festivals, etc. etc. to distract us. And we're really, really talkative (all girls) so that obviously doesn't help.

Probably the worst of all: none of us have all that vocabulary memorised. So we continue to stuff up unseens. And yes, practice helps. Only to some extent though really. I actually find that revising grammar helps me best, but then I've never been good at keeping verb forms under wraps

LivC · 19 May 2007, 10:21 AM

hahaha that sounds all too familiar....we often talk about the white sow. We have also named our pencil cases after our favourites haha...mine is Lucretia, we also have Cacus, Clemens and Ufens

TheLadyDisdain · 6 Jun 2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by falcon07

I received my ACL result today, I received gold along with 2 others

If it helps, 2 dropped from our class at the end of year 11.
My next Latin exam is in a week, Livy up to chapter 9 and Virgil up to 634, grammar, commentary, unseen. We're only about 30 lines from the end of Virgil, then we'll have to do Livy every lesson.

That's awesome!!!! Well done!!!! Were you surprised?

We had about 4 drop outs at the end of yr11.

@Shmoo and Liv: HEHEHEHEHEHE as GwendyMarr/Sheepy said we are a very odd bunch indeed! Everything and I mean, everything is turned into a phallic symbol one way or the other and this has been going on for years! We love our military/sword jokes, our se exercet, and our non so warped theories that everyone was GAY! (and Canniballs stories) On top of that there's a lot of planning on going to Elysium and poking all these Livy, Virgil and Lucretius people! So basically we spend more time making dirty jokes a lot of the time than actually learning! We're a bunch of boys, seriously! (not a good thing when it comes to HSC). We also do a lot of bitching about Livy and about literal translations of things gerundives meaning stuff like "there was a need for Lucretia to be raped"...GRRRR our poor teacher!

Man this stupid thing won't email me with replies anymore! How annoying!

Anyway, yes we do all hate unseens I can imagine! We did our Virgil and Livy ones today...hahahah creative guessing I say! Plus they gave us vocab we knew and there were quite a few words we didn't know...we all SUCK at VOCAB...I mean who doesn't know pinus!?!?!?!? Sextus Erectus Pinus people?

We're starting Cicero tomorrow in Extension, am mildly excited!

But anyway, while I'm procrastinating here, I'm supposed to be studying for my Cont. on Friday... It's basically Virgil 190-600 and something and Livy Chapters 9,16 and 57!! Man I can so see me staying up all night tomorrow studying because I'm so dead now...hmm I might go read commentary notes before I go to bed!

AND...who's excited for "nerd" seminar at Santa Sabina next week? XDDDD Free day off school and close proximity to Newtown so I'm a very happy chappy! XD

I guess I be seeing you people around next week? O_o!

Happy Assessment Studying all!

TheLadyDisdain · 15 Jun 2007, 5:51 PM

What a shame, no replies in here for yonkies!

ANYWHOS, since Latin Study day was today and before I forget to ask in the future even though NO ONE comes in here!

What did everyone think of today!? What lectures did you go to? and Did you find them helpful!?

I personally found all of the lectures I went to helpful. I went (obviously) to the HSC Virgil and Livy and in the arvo I went to both the Extension lectures. I reckon I got a lot out of today, I really liked the philosophy lectures, especially the Cicero one!

And our last Latin assessment "bited arse"! XD
One passage we weren't told to study, grammar was sucky (been arguing over marks) and it was all generally sucky! >.<

falcon07 · 17 Jun 2007, 6:36 PM

ok fine I'll reply Study day was pretty good, especially the lectures on unseens. I think I'll do a lot better in the trial nowthat I have a better idea on how to approach prose unseens. I don't think I got as much from the set text lectures because we had already covered a lot of the commentary points in class. Speaking of classes, we now have an additional 2 free periods because the extension class needs extra lessons to finish the course on time!

TheLadyDisdain · 19 Jun 2007, 5:25 PM

Woah! No way! That's really lucky!

Yeah that's like us with extension, we are pretty much behind sort of except we're on time for what we have to finish this term. I still have plenty of stuff to go through, especially with dreaded Lucretius. Cicero is really enjoyable and pretty simple...Lucretius should die though!

I liked the commentary lectures because commentary's my main sucky section so now I feel, I don't know, more interested in doing well perhaps?

What type of things were said in the unseen lectures???

Oh and our disasterous Latin assessment...we were supposed to be re-doing our Virgil grammar section today, but the lines prescribed for that were not ones we needed for our latest assessment and we had a year 12 trivia night last night and since it was over 150 lines none of us were too amused, but luckily we got out of it until Thursday because we have a top debater in our class who did the manipulating for us...head of classics is not amused, but anyway she's been giving us too much work for short periods time lately.

Woo latin rant, man that's sad!

And latin is placed in a shocking place on my trial timetable...that will not turn out well! Oh well 5 weeks to learn EVERYTHING!

falcon07 · 21 Jun 2007, 8:19 PM

How was the test? I usually try and start learning the set texts a few weeks before the assessment so I can just spend the night before quickly reading the latin to make sure I know it all and going over commentary. The points in the unseen lectures were pretty much what was on the handouts. Dexter spent so much time explaining his points that he only managed to get through 1 line of his unseens, but the second line of unseen B really demonstrates what he was saying (it starts, has half a dozen subordinate clauses, then has the verb and rest of the sentnce). The prose lecture wasn't much new for me since my teacher was talking, but his main point was how scansion can help with your translation by identifying long a 1st declension ablative endings and telling the difference between -is (3rd decl sing gen) and -is (3rd decl plur acc).

TheLadyDisdain · 22 Jun 2007, 5:27 PM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the grammar test was excellent! I bumped into my teacher who told me I got 9/10 and that no one got higher than that...I actually asked him if he was joking...and apparently he wasn't! That was after not actually knowing the translation properly and doing it contextually based on what words were there and the structure of sentences...man that must work!

I am a very "night before" kind of person. It's a terrible habit because I prioritise my work based on assessments and don't actually consistantly work on things in general (so even if I cram a few hours before the assessment I'm still screwed, and get comments like "not working to her full capability because she leaves stuff to the last minute. Blah blah blah!")...hence why I have 5 weeks to learn absolutely everything I've ever done before trials. I basically try to start learning things a couple of days before the actual assessment but the night before I'm up to ungodly hours stressing over all the stuff I should have done way before the night before.

Yay! I'm glad most of the stuff is in the notes. I looked through them and most of the stuff is things I've already been told/attempting to apply anyway. Yeah my ext. teacher is huge on scansion...I find it a big pain in the arse, but yeah it's very handy, but I also worked out with -is endings in our grammar yesterday that that type of stuff can also be worked out by the context.

I think one of the biggest issues with unseens (well especially for me and the rest of my cohort) is vocab. I hate vocab and no matter how hard I try I can't remember it all...that's where a reasonable knowledge of syntax gets you no where.

LivC · 23 Jun 2007, 3:14 PM

omg that's sooo true...we just had 2 unseens and they were shocking!! So you found the study day helpful?? SCEGGS doesn't allow us to go to any study days....sounds like the unseen tips would be of great help

TheLadyDisdain · 24 Jun 2007, 11:17 AM

No way! That's so unfair! Why won't they let you!? Surely it's a benefit to them as well as you! Man I thought my school's policies were unfair!

Yeah, I think the tips were helpful! Has your teacher/s given you any advice at all!?

LivC · 26 Jun 2007, 9:44 AM

yeah....well she said that she took notes..I'm not exactly sure what on though haha. I would like to have been able to go....the four of us at SCEGGS aren't exactly great at unseens...in part bc of the vocab haha....our teacher said that they are thinking about taking out "the chunky" (vocab) as she calls it....shame that hasn't happened for us!

anthropoestin · 4 Jul 2007, 4:00 PM

Hey I do Classical Greek too! I was wondering about putting up a post...but then again there's probs only about 15 of us in the state so its lucky i found one person anyway!

What unseens are you doing?? where are you up to in your set texts?? im doing it at SHORE in yr 11 - all alone! thoughts on eurip vs thucyd??

15 May 2007, 11:03 AM	#32 (permalink)
schmoo New Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Last Activity: 26 Dec 2007, 12:37 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 hello chaps! (hello liv, watch me post!) reading through a lot of the threads on this forum, it would seem that at SCEGGS we're not the only latin class that, erm, doesn't make quite enough use of their class time. is this true for you guys as well? do you find you get completely off-track during the lesson and then you have a whole heap to revise/learn at home? if not, our class should probably pull our socksies up ... but it's all so text based that it's so tempting to leave it all til later ... also seems to be a common theme that we all hate unseens. do you guys find that practice is really the only way to improve on these? have a good week of latin, kids!

15 May 2007, 6:12 PM	#33 (permalink)
LivC New Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Last Activity: 15 Jan 2008, 9:14 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 hey hey...nice to see you sarah!

19 May 2007, 10:21 AM	#35 (permalink)
LivC New Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Last Activity: 15 Jan 2008, 9:14 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 hahaha that sounds all too familiar....we often talk about the white sow. We have also named our pencil cases after our favourites haha...mine is Lucretia, we also have Cacus, Clemens and Ufens

15 Jun 2007, 5:51 PM	#37 (permalink)
TheLadyDisdain Senior Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Location: Sydneyopolis Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2009, 5:15 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 What a shame, no replies in here for yonkies! ANYWHOS, since Latin Study day was today and before I forget to ask in the future even though NO ONE comes in here! What did everyone think of today!? What lectures did you go to? and Did you find them helpful!? I personally found all of the lectures I went to helpful. I went (obviously) to the HSC Virgil and Livy and in the arvo I went to both the Extension lectures. I reckon I got a lot out of today, I really liked the philosophy lectures, especially the Cicero one! And our last Latin assessment "bited arse"! XD One passage we weren't told to study, grammar was sucky (been arguing over marks) and it was all generally sucky! >.< __________________ HSC 2007: 3u English, 2u Maths, Chemistry, 3u Latin, 3u Classical Greek.

17 Jun 2007, 6:36 PM	#38 (permalink)
falcon07 Assistant Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Male Location: Northern Beaches Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 56 Last Activity: Yesterday, 6:58 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 ok fine I'll reply Study day was pretty good, especially the lectures on unseens. I think I'll do a lot better in the trial nowthat I have a better idea on how to approach prose unseens. I don't think I got as much from the set text lectures because we had already covered a lot of the commentary points in class. Speaking of classes, we now have an additional 2 free periods because the extension class needs extra lessons to finish the course on time!

19 Jun 2007, 5:25 PM	#39 (permalink)
TheLadyDisdain Senior Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Location: Sydneyopolis Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2009, 5:15 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 Woah! No way! That's really lucky! Yeah that's like us with extension, we are pretty much behind sort of except we're on time for what we have to finish this term. I still have plenty of stuff to go through, especially with dreaded Lucretius. Cicero is really enjoyable and pretty simple...Lucretius should die though! I liked the commentary lectures because commentary's my main sucky section so now I feel, I don't know, more interested in doing well perhaps? What type of things were said in the unseen lectures??? Oh and our disasterous Latin assessment...we were supposed to be re-doing our Virgil grammar section today, but the lines prescribed for that were not ones we needed for our latest assessment and we had a year 12 trivia night last night and since it was over 150 lines none of us were too amused, but luckily we got out of it until Thursday because we have a top debater in our class who did the manipulating for us...head of classics is not amused, but anyway she's been giving us too much work for short periods time lately. Woo latin rant, man that's sad! And latin is placed in a shocking place on my trial timetable...that will not turn out well! Oh well 5 weeks to learn EVERYTHING! __________________ HSC 2007: 3u English, 2u Maths, Chemistry, 3u Latin, 3u Classical Greek.

21 Jun 2007, 8:19 PM	#40 (permalink)
falcon07 Assistant Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Male Location: Northern Beaches Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 56 Last Activity: Yesterday, 6:58 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 How was the test? I usually try and start learning the set texts a few weeks before the assessment so I can just spend the night before quickly reading the latin to make sure I know it all and going over commentary. The points in the unseen lectures were pretty much what was on the handouts. Dexter spent so much time explaining his points that he only managed to get through 1 line of his unseens, but the second line of unseen B really demonstrates what he was saying (it starts, has half a dozen subordinate clauses, then has the verb and rest of the sentnce). The prose lecture wasn't much new for me since my teacher was talking, but his main point was how scansion can help with your translation by identifying long a 1st declension ablative endings and telling the difference between -is (3rd decl sing gen) and -is (3rd decl plur acc).

22 Jun 2007, 5:27 PM	#41 (permalink)
TheLadyDisdain Senior Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Location: Sydneyopolis Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2009, 5:15 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 I can't believe I'm saying this, but the grammar test was excellent! I bumped into my teacher who told me I got 9/10 and that no one got higher than that...I actually asked him if he was joking...and apparently he wasn't! That was after not actually knowing the translation properly and doing it contextually based on what words were there and the structure of sentences...man that must work! I am a very "night before" kind of person. It's a terrible habit because I prioritise my work based on assessments and don't actually consistantly work on things in general (so even if I cram a few hours before the assessment I'm still screwed, and get comments like "not working to her full capability because she leaves stuff to the last minute. Blah blah blah!")...hence why I have 5 weeks to learn absolutely everything I've ever done before trials. I basically try to start learning things a couple of days before the actual assessment but the night before I'm up to ungodly hours stressing over all the stuff I should have done way before the night before. Yay! I'm glad most of the stuff is in the notes. I looked through them and most of the stuff is things I've already been told/attempting to apply anyway. Yeah my ext. teacher is huge on scansion...I find it a big pain in the arse, but yeah it's very handy, but I also worked out with -is endings in our grammar yesterday that that type of stuff can also be worked out by the context. I think one of the biggest issues with unseens (well especially for me and the rest of my cohort) is vocab. I hate vocab and no matter how hard I try I can't remember it all...that's where a reasonable knowledge of syntax gets you no where. __________________ HSC 2007: 3u English, 2u Maths, Chemistry, 3u Latin, 3u Classical Greek.

23 Jun 2007, 3:14 PM	#42 (permalink)
LivC New Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Last Activity: 15 Jan 2008, 9:14 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 omg that's sooo true...we just had 2 unseens and they were shocking!! So you found the study day helpful?? SCEGGS doesn't allow us to go to any study days....sounds like the unseen tips would be of great help

24 Jun 2007, 11:17 AM	#43 (permalink)
TheLadyDisdain Senior Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Location: Sydneyopolis Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200 Last Activity: 13 Mar 2009, 5:15 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 No way! That's so unfair! Why won't they let you!? Surely it's a benefit to them as well as you! Man I thought my school's policies were unfair! Yeah, I think the tips were helpful! Has your teacher/s given you any advice at all!? __________________ HSC 2007: 3u English, 2u Maths, Chemistry, 3u Latin, 3u Classical Greek.

26 Jun 2007, 9:44 AM	#44 (permalink)
LivC New Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Female Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Last Activity: 15 Jan 2008, 9:14 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 yeah....well she said that she took notes..I'm not exactly sure what on though haha. I would like to have been able to go....the four of us at SCEGGS aren't exactly great at unseens...in part bc of the vocab haha....our teacher said that they are thinking about taking out "the chunky" (vocab) as she calls it....shame that hasn't happened for us!

4 Jul 2007, 4:00 PM	#45 (permalink)
anthropoestin Assistant Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Male Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84 Last Activity: 20 Dec 2008, 10:54 PM	Re: Lat. Cont. and Lat. Ext.: HSC 2007 Hey I do Classical Greek too! I was wondering about putting up a post...but then again there's probs only about 15 of us in the state so its lucky i found one person anyway! What unseens are you doing?? where are you up to in your set texts?? im doing it at SHORE in yr 11 - all alone! thoughts on eurip vs thucyd??

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