why are some unis better then others.?

hatty · 22 Jul 2004, 2:57 AM

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hey

ive never really thought about this, i guess ive always resigned to the widespread oppinion that UNSW is better then UWS, without ever really knowing why.

so why is it that some unis are considered better then others?

is it the employment prospects for the graduates?
or is it the difficulty of how they make certain course?
or is it simply something like the reputation of that uni? if so. what is this reputation built upon?

cheers

**jm1234567890** · 22 Jul 2004, 3:06 AM

The reputation is based on academics producing higher quality research, student satisfaction, etc...

Difficulty is around the same, though the top unis tend to have harder assessemts

reputation is built on oldness

hatty · 22 Jul 2004, 3:28 AM

these academics that produce higher quality research...
are they students? or are they professors and teachers and stuff?
cheers

hipsta_jess · 22 Jul 2004, 5:07 AM

i think for me, when considering how 'good' a uni is, i consider its graduates employment prospects, the campus and general vibe of the place, the individual courses, ability to attract research funding, etc.

estaile · 22 Jul 2004, 5:12 AM

so i suppose depending on the course you want to take, you should try and stay away from certin uni's? does it really make that much of a difference to your job prospects about which uni you go to?

santaslayer · 22 Jul 2004, 5:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hatty

hey

ive never really thought about this, i guess ive always resigned to the widespread oppinion that UNSW is better then UWS, without ever really knowing why.

so why is it that some unis are considered better then others?

is it the employment prospects for the graduates?
or is it the difficulty of how they make certain course?
or is it simply something like the reputation of that uni? if so. what is this reputation built upon?

cheers

I think you've summed up the major points to your own question, although reputation is becomming less important nowdays. Some employment statistics are obviously better than others, but at the end of the day, it usually comes down to the individual. I know many friends who are extremely talented but they go to universities which a majority might consider unsuitable for that particular course. Reputation isn't a real worry when your're getting HD's in every single subject of every single semester of every single year during your entire course.

LoLz, yes I know such a nerd, but this happens very rarely, what I guess I'm trying to point out is it comes down to the individual student at the end of the day. A lot of the people I have been referring to refuse to go to 'prestigious' unis because of proximity issues.

Generator · 22 Jul 2004, 7:31 AM

Employment prospects shouldn't be considered as a measure of success for a particular university, but that's just me taking note of the idea that a university is a place of higher learning rather than a mere vocationalised college.

**jm1234567890** · 22 Jul 2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hatty

these academics that produce higher quality research...
are they students? or are they professors and teachers and stuff?
cheers

lecturers and professors produce most of the research. students aren't usually refered to as academics are they?

monzi · 23 Jul 2004, 2:22 PM

I agree with you Natstar, my friends brother, did radiography at charles sturt university and now he works for one of the top clinics in Sydney..earns over 150 grand a year..so in my opinion who cares what uni you attend a degree is a degree!

iambored · 23 Jul 2004, 3:10 PM

also UWS started as a group of colleges that joined, so they haven't had the prestige since they joined

santaslayer · 24 Jul 2004, 5:08 AM

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Originally Posted by melbournian

its like trying to talk to an ant

LoLz, melbournian, why don't you give us the benefit of your wisdom then?

22 Jul 2004, 2:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
hatty Greatness Location: I am the one Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,178 Last Activity: 21 Dec 2005, 6:34 PM	why are some unis better then others.? You can hide this advertisement by registering. hey ive never really thought about this, i guess ive always resigned to the widespread oppinion that UNSW is better then UWS, without ever really knowing why. so why is it that some unis are considered better then others? is it the employment prospects for the graduates? or is it the difficulty of how they make certain course? or is it simply something like the reputation of that uni? if so. what is this reputation built upon? cheers

22 Jul 2004, 3:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
jm1234567890 Moderator HSC: 2003 Gender: Male Location: Stanford, CA Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6,438 Last Activity: Today, 1:28 AM	The reputation is based on academics producing higher quality research, student satisfaction, etc... Difficulty is around the same, though the top unis tend to have harder assessemts reputation is built on oldness __________________ Telecommunications Engineering/Maths @ University of Wollongong [University Medal] MSc/PhD Electrical Engineering [Computational Biology] @ Stanford University

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monzi Senior Member HSC: 2003 Gender: Female Location: Never Never Never Land! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 274 Last Activity: 18 Jan 2009, 10:26 PM	I agree with you Natstar, my friends brother, did radiography at charles sturt university and now he works for one of the top clinics in Sydney..earns over 150 grand a year..so in my opinion who cares what uni you attend a degree is a degree! __________________ Learn from the past, look forward to the future and accept the present... 4th Year - Bachelor of Business/LLB - University of Technology Sydney Bachelor of Arts (Terrorism, Counterrorism & Security) - Open Universities Australia.

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hatty Greatness Location: I am the one Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,178 Last Activity: 21 Dec 2005, 6:34 PM	these academics that produce higher quality research... are they students? or are they professors and teachers and stuff? cheers

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hipsta_jess Up the mighty red V HSC: N/A Gender: Female Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,021 Last Activity: 25 Apr 2009, 10:35 AM	i think for me, when considering how 'good' a uni is, i consider its graduates employment prospects, the campus and general vibe of the place, the individual courses, ability to attract research funding, etc.

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estaile New Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16 Last Activity: 15 Nov 2004, 9:02 PM	so i suppose depending on the course you want to take, you should try and stay away from certin uni's? does it really make that much of a difference to your job prospects about which uni you go to?

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Generator Demigod of Waffle HSC: N/A Gender: Undisclosed Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,355 Last Activity: 26 Jan 2010, 11:51 PM	Employment prospects shouldn't be considered as a measure of success for a particular university, but that's just me taking note of the idea that a university is a place of higher learning rather than a mere vocationalised college.

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iambored dum-di-dum HSC: 2003 Gender: Undisclosed Location: here Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,080 Last Activity: 25 Jun 2009, 9:34 AM	also UWS started as a group of colleges that joined, so they haven't had the prestige since they joined