Things you should know about universities, and choosing.

[FinalFantasy]

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Lainee i think u would be clever enough to do a course well even if u don't like it=P

[daiana]

but doing degrees such as Lib Studies, is purely, in my opinion...not doing much good for ur future job prospects even though it surely seems damn interesting. it's so generalised. it sounds like something a hsc student can afford to study, not a uni student who should think about their future somewhat! i mean USYD prospectus had the following for its career prospects:

*postgraduate study*

**jaw drops** a student even said that you won't get a job from it, you just gain some "thinking and analytical skills"





now let's see the uai for liberal studies drop to a decent 72 haha

[poloktim]

Originally Posted by daiana

but doing degrees such as Lib Studies, is purely, in my opinion...not doing much good for ur future job prospects even though it surely seems damn interesting. it's so generalised. it sounds like something a hsc student can afford to study, not a uni student who should think about their future somewhat! i mean USYD prospectus had the following for its career prospects:

*postgraduate study*

**jaw drops** a student even said that you won't get a job from it, you just gain some "thinking and analytical skills"





now let's see the uai for liberal studies drop to a decent 72 haha

That wasn't the point of my post. If you want to study Liberal Studies because you think it's interesting, then you should. You'll get better marks. You'll enjoy uni more, and hell, if say you do law instead, and that's boring, and you don't want to do it for anything buy career prospects, then I don't want you representing me. I'd prefer someone with passion for their work. It's all about the passion.

You think about your future once you have an education.

[daiana]

gomen, poloktim! yes i know my reply was a bit off centre, but u know what. different people wnat different things out of uni. i want to serve my passion (jap + eco) and hopefully my degree can allow me to broaden my interests as well as career prospects and perhaps my interests can be part of my job sometime.

Either way, it's sometimes really difficult to tell whether one should choose a degree just to..
1. go to uni
2. leadway for a desired career
3. serve interests
4. socialise
5. get out of the house
6. whatever

so many people these days just want a degree...and uni seems like the only other thing to do besides being at home and bludging...and ur HSC certificate doesn't mean much to an employer.. they want experience or a tertiary education of some kind.

just 18.. and have to choose choose choose...well at least there's choice! =)

[Benjamin]

Dear everyone,

I am just 17 and I have to make these choices! lol, its driving me nuts.... I realy want to fly to england, train it to the top of england.. catch a ferry to scottland/ireland and then catch it back and take the train over to france and finaly training it down to spain for the end of the year, but Uni waits for no bens!, especialy ones with pushy fathers who want to rush their kids into anything as fast as possible. lol

I feel realy sorry for the people who worked hard in their HSCs but where left with no uni/career path, they dont deserve to be left with nothing..... but any way....

I am doing Arts (political science major hopefuly), with hopes of moving into law in my 2nd year as I wish to be a politician but I want somthing to fall back on. So.... this is a great pathway, but I am pretty sure my new suroundings at a Uni College(student accomidation) with gear me up for non-stop studying , and hey its law/politics.... atleast in year 12 legal studies I had absolutely no problem studying for it as it was extremely intresting, though I find myself more more sceptical of many government systems as time goes on including democracy which though the best system out there, still has a few holes which could be plugged.

I was just wondering about transfers... does any one know what subjects I will need to do/ gain credit adverages in to gain entry into law in 2nd year? I have talked it over with my high school's career adviser last year and she says its definantly do-able, though I will have to work hard at it, and hey its politics, should be great. Praise God! ^_^.

I will be ringing my High School's career adviser realy soon to ask for abit more detail, but she gets abit cranky repeating herself, so if you guys could give me some info that would be great.

I am going to UNE just to state it, I hope none of you are pretencious enough look down on it simply because its UAIs are lower. The facts are that they have a pretty nice research reputation along with a high ranking in the good universities guide. Sorry to bring that up, its just alot of people tear it down because the UAIs are abit lower, which ofcourse it due to its location in armidale.... which is miles from me, but its all good so far.

God Bless you,

-Benjamin Graham

[daiana]

benjamin, why would you ring up your high school advisor all the time? shouldn't you ring up the uni itself coz they've got the most up to date info, and more importantly, they're setting the rules! high school advisers aren't THAT useful to begin with.. but yea.. do check with the uni of your pref first.

[taco man]

call me stupid or watever but i dont have the slightest idea of anything bout uni can u uni-goers give sum relly general info on uni eg:like wat a postgraduate and bachelors course is, perceptions, structure of uni or absolutely anything that u kno that might help

thanks

[wrong_turn]

i have a feeling that i would be consulting this thread in the near future, many a time.

[craz]

It seems now a days it is more practical to get a degree. Some see it because it's the thing to do others do it because they need it to get a job. It is obvious that some people are very worried about careers. I myself by growing up overseas...have come to realise...that people in hong kong are so worried about their kids doing what they want...not what the kids want - that doesn't matter!

Many people choose to do things for the sake of it like law or medicine or business.

I chose to do education...well i did arts last year and oh boy was that a mistake...it was a learning curve though. Arts does not get you very far...and it's very general. I love children/working with them. I've been known to get clucky around kids and i like IT/History and that's what i want to do. It's just what i want!

Where as...with some others it's I'll do IT because it's what everybody else is doing.

Some of this stuff is common sense but we still get dragged into certain things unknowingly!

[hamsterMan]

thanks man

[skwan]

I already printed it out@!@!

[craz]

Good stuff! The advice actually given on the front page im sorry to say in my opinion is very biased!

I look at where i am i live on campus (res) as we call it here in ballarat needless to say i can't wait to move off, but you know each place suits different people differently.

If you want to transfer courses like you want to move from say arts to politics or something of the like make sure you do maintain a good average like a credit and above average ranging from 70-100%

A lot of people have the perception that university is either a booze place or is just purely academic neither is true. True a lot of people go out and get drunk regularly but there is a need to get some work done in order to qualify for your degree! It's not purely academic because it's not all about getting an article published in say a prestigious journal. Just give it your best shot and don't worry about honours unless you really want it.

As far as I'm concerned...Benjamin, being out at Armidale doesn't mean you're any different. Everybody has a different place where they are happy to study and that's a good thing - you don't have to go somewhere just because their UAI is better for that uni (although i admit that does help) As long as you're happy you can always do your next degree at a more prestigious uni if you want.

The structure of uni: much more laidback than say secondary. you have lectures and tutorials depending on your course you may have PRAC classes, or teaching/nursing rounds or whatever in your timetable. Lecture's aren't compulsory but it is a good idea to understand what they go on about in tutes. Tutorials are compulsory and there you can range questions and so forth from the lecture. Pracs are generally for science, education and possibly a few other subject areas. In Education, we use them for group presentations based on our school rounds.

A Bachelor course refers to a course that normally lasts 3-4 years and this can lead to honours. Examples, include science, education, business, IT, nursing, engingeering. You can do as many bachelors as you want but that does not mean you automatically qualify as an undergraduate.

An undergraduate is essentially your first degree but you are not eligible for concessions if you are a mature age which means not straight out from high school/ or taken a gap year!

A postgraduate means you are doing your second/third degree. Generally people who are postgraduates are people who have graduated, coming back for another or mature age students coming back to study. I could be wrong on this as im not a mature age student!

Anybody is welcome to question or ask for clarification.

Hope it helps

[a8o]

Choose a university based on potential lifestyle. Then choose your course.

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

Originally Posted by craz

An undergraduate is essentially your first degree but you are not eligible for concessions if you are a mature age which means not straight out from high school/ or taken a gap year!

A postgraduate means you are doing your second/third degree. Generally people who are postgraduates are people who have graduated, coming back for another or mature age students coming back to study. I could be wrong on this as im not a mature age student!

that part about mature aged students is not completely true.. they have the same path as a yr 12 person but they dun use UAI or they use it in combination with other things lik work experience and can get career credits if its in the same pathway

undergraduates = before u get ure bachelors

about the postgrad part.. u still need a undergrad degree unless u get exception.. that happens rarely cos faculties can confer postgrads whilst unis confer the undergrad degrees ..

i only know one person that has a masters but no bachelors or any undergrad work.. cos he worked for the faculty after droppin out from a bach and didnt go back... but he got a masters by research cos he also did alot of research for them.

its a similar thing for honourary doctorates..

also ure point about medicine isnt always true.. even in HK.. ppl do it cos its just plain interesting, changing and challenging.. and its a 5-7 yr bachelor degree... so its the exception to the rule as its a single degree not combined.

[Prankster9015]

If you were to attempt to enter into a very competitive course (e.g. medicine), how many Universities should I actually apply for to increase my chances?