Macquarie drops in world rankings....again!

akiva · 11 Oct 2009, 2:35 PM

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Macquarie has now dropped from 182 to 187 in the top-200.

<start rant>

This is starting to really p*ss me off. What are they doing with my fees?

I shouldn't be surprised I guess, given the quality of the 'teaching' of ACCG352 this semester - 2 hour lectures which finish after 45 minutes and tutorials which go for 15 minutes. Then a 19 page midsemester exam to be done in 90 minutes. Did I mention the 'lecturer' who can't speak english??!!?

Sorry...
<end rant>

dolbinau · 11 Oct 2009, 2:41 PM

Apparently Schwartz gets a $100,000 bonus if he can get MQ 8th in the rankings by 2013. (p.s. it's 189th not 187)

So I'm sure he is trying hard ;P>

blackrider89 · 11 Oct 2009, 4:33 PM

THES's ranking is regarded as a shit one

. U can give a Principal of 1 Uni in wherever some bucks to get a holiday in Oz and visit MQ and in his peer review sometimes MQ maybe better than Harvard (coz H hasn't given him a shit). And the International staff and students which 're 20%...Who cares about it?

"Top 200" in our context is to be 1 in 200 research universities ranked by Shanghai Jiaotong, a much well-regarded one comparing to THES's. The Vice-Chancellor and Dean of the Economics Department have said that.

Just forget about rankings a bit or u on some bad day may notice in a ranking that ranked MQ, more or less, at 400 or 500 in the world (I know one and it's considered as rigorous as SHJT's one, even somewhat better).

akiva · 11 Oct 2009, 5:13 PM

Yep and I've looked at the other two you're referring two and Macq is placed even lower than in the Times one.

I'm not sure where I'll be doing postgrad but it sure as hell won't be at Macq.

And it's not just because of the rankings....

blackrider89 · 12 Oct 2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akiva

Yep and I've looked at the other two you're referring two and Macq is placed even lower than in the Times one.

I'm not sure where I'll be doing postgrad but it sure as hell won't be at Macq.

And it's not just because of the rankings....

It'll surely be m8. Even one ranked MQ at 100 or higher...I would never, at least now, consider it a (very) good Uni. That's the same idea of many ppl IMAO.

salehhbk121415 · 16 Oct 2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akiva

I shouldn't be surprised I guess, given the quality of the 'teaching' of ACCG352 this semester - 2 hour lectures which finish after 45 minutes and tutorials which go for 15 minutes. Then a 19 page midsemester exam to be done in 90 minutes. Did I mention the 'lecturer' who can't speak english??!!?

Sorry...
<end rant>

Its because the lack of people who complain thats why, They leave the lecturers who cant speak English its stupid.

Atlas · 19 Oct 2009, 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by salehhbk121415

Its because the lack of people who complain thats why, They leave the lecturers who cant speak English its stupid.

Do the complaints actually work? Those end of semester reviews are clearly not read or at least they aren't responding to them...

LOL - I'm surprised that Mq even made it in the top 200...

dolbinau · 19 Oct 2009, 8:05 AM

They make a pretty big deal about the reviews so I figure someone MUST read them..

blackrider89 · 19 Oct 2009, 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlas

Do the complaints actually work? Those end of semester reviews are clearly not read or at least they aren't responding to them...

LOL - I'm surprised that Mq even made it in the top 200...

In a merely commercial Ranking as the THES's, nothing is impossible. University of Malaya, 180-oh holy shit

.
Top 300 is a more accurate one. To get a place in top 200 of the SHJT's (Schwartz's dream), they (we) must try heaps more.

Monstar · 19 Oct 2009, 2:07 PM

Dude lets face it, The candiditure at macquarie isnt that great...
So when macquarie hires within its own, its like a deadly cycle with each generation of students getting crapper and crapper. The fact that we have lecturers who can't speak english is representative of the point im making.

**PwarYuex** · 19 Oct 2009, 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolbinau

Apparently Schwartz gets a $100,000 bonus if he can get MQ 8th in the rankings by 2013. (p.s. it's 189th not 187)

That's obviously a lie.

Noone has pointed out that the International Student scoring was 100%. I like it how international students are far happier at MQ than local students are.

Pretty indicative of the university, imo.

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackrider89

THES's ranking is regarded as a shit one

Erm, not really. It's considered one of the top two, with Shanghai Uni. They're different methods of ranking, which of course produce different results. /shrug.

dolbinau · 19 Oct 2009, 7:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PwarYuex

That's obviously a lie.

.

Looking around perhaps a bonus for that specific instance isn't quite true (I'm not sure), but he is getting 100,000 bonuses for something:

Uni defies trend by squeezing executive pay - National - smh.com.au

"At Macquarie University, the incoming vice-chancellor, Steven Schwartz, received a salary package of $540,000, but it appears he did not earn his bonus.

Under his performance indicators, included in material supplied to the Herald under freedom-of-information laws last year, he would have earned a full bonus of $100,000 if he doubled the number of PhD students at the university and lifted its international ranking during the year."

blackrider89 · 19 Oct 2009, 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PwarYuex

That's obviously a lie.

Noone has pointed out that the International Student scoring was 100%. I like it how international students are far happier at MQ than local students are.

Pretty indicative of the university, imo.

Edit:
Erm, not really. It's considered one of the top two, with Shanghai Uni. They're different methods of ranking, which of course produce different results. /shrug.

Being considered the 2nd right after SHJT's, the THES's reputation actually based on the popularity (at least it's published in English).

Every ranking has its own methods. But 40% for Peer review, 20% for International (and Overseas students are not quite happy at MQ, for sure) students and staff. What the heck? Now there comes a South East Asias Uni in THES's ranking, University of Malaya, 180

. Good joke.
I'd prefer the SHJT and HEECT (?) ones. Sounds transparent, at least.

dolbinau · 19 Oct 2009, 9:09 PM

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(and Overseas students are not quite happy at MQ, for sure)

Please, go on. I mean. I like bitching about things, so....

Atlas · 20 Oct 2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseHelpLine

I'm in my first year but so far out of the units I've done, BBA102 and ACCG105 are the most disorganised and have some low standards teachesr (in my opinion don't grill me).

Sorry to give you bad news.. but if you think those are bad.... it doesn't get much better from there

11 Oct 2009, 2:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
akiva Junior Member HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33 Last Activity: Yesterday, 9:20 PM	Macquarie drops in world rankings....again! You can hide this advertisement by registering. Times Higher Education Macquarie has now dropped from 182 to 187 in the top-200. <start rant> This is starting to really p*ss me off. What are they doing with my fees? I shouldn't be surprised I guess, given the quality of the 'teaching' of ACCG352 this semester - 2 hour lectures which finish after 45 minutes and tutorials which go for 15 minutes. Then a 19 page midsemester exam to be done in 90 minutes. Did I mention the 'lecturer' who can't speak english??!!? Sorry... <end rant>

11 Oct 2009, 2:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
dolbinau Supreme Member HSC: 2008 Gender: Male Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,224 Last Activity: 20 Nov 2009, 10:25 PM	Re: Macquarie drops in world rankings....again! Apparently Schwartz gets a $100,000 bonus if he can get MQ 8th in the rankings by 2013. (p.s. it's 189th not 187) So I'm sure he is trying hard ;P> __________________ Psy@MQ. Last edited by dolbinau; 11 Oct 2009 at 2:44 PM.

11 Oct 2009, 4:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
blackrider89 Assistant Member HSC: 2007 Gender: Male Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 85 Last Activity: Today, 1:42 AM	Re: Macquarie drops in world rankings....again! THES's ranking is regarded as a shit one . U can give a Principal of 1 Uni in wherever some bucks to get a holiday in Oz and visit MQ and in his peer review sometimes MQ maybe better than Harvard (coz H hasn't given him a shit). And the International staff and students which 're 20%...Who cares about it? "Top 200" in our context is to be 1 in 200 research universities ranked by Shanghai Jiaotong, a much well-regarded one comparing to THES's. The Vice-Chancellor and Dean of the Economics Department have said that. Just forget about rankings a bit or u on some bad day may notice in a ranking that ranked MQ, more or less, at 400 or 500 in the world (I know one and it's considered as rigorous as SHJT's one, even somewhat better). Last edited by blackrider89; 11 Oct 2009 at 9:35 PM.

11 Oct 2009, 5:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
akiva Junior Member HSC: N/A Gender: Male Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33 Last Activity: Yesterday, 9:20 PM	Re: Macquarie drops in world rankings....again! Yep and I've looked at the other two you're referring two and Macq is placed even lower than in the Times one. I'm not sure where I'll be doing postgrad but it sure as hell won't be at Macq. And it's not just because of the rankings....

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