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Old 15 Apr 2006, 5:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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how to pay without using paypal? can't i just bribe a mod for $20 to give me premium?
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Old 15 Apr 2006, 5:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The Paypal thing lets you use credit card if you don't have a Paypal account.
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how to pay without using paypal? can't i just bribe a mod for $20 to give me premium?
How would you pay the mod? :S
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go to bubz or staz, give them $20 and tell them to give me premium instead of having to go through the net, of which i don't trust with money.
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im gonna become a premium member
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can we have a premium-only forum where we can spam?
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fkn leaching off poor HSC and uni students for $20 a year shame on yourselves always got to make money from poor people. This should be a resource for students for free. once again shame
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And you don't consider how much it costs to run a site/forum on a scale of this size?
The cost of running the site is irrelevant to its users. You already have advertising, what else do you want.
I sense profiteering, and capitalism. You are encouraging a shift to altrernative sources of information.
Foolishness. In the long run, you'd make a hell of a lot more money through advertising, but instead you are going to destroy the sites potential.
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Supposedly we're the new Microsoft, squeezing the life out of kids by forcing them to join the coalition of the willing or perish..
correct. Through allowing for discrimination between paying and non paying members in regards to access to resources, you are in effect giving a further advantage to those students who are from wealthy backgrounds, therefore assisting the propagation and expansion of a class divide, through heightening their probability of HSC success. Thus you create a spiral whereby the standard of achievement is raised, - this is by no means a bad thing, however, stratified access to opportunity is - but what it means is that those who previously wouldn't have seen the need to pay for such access will be pressured into doing so - and putting money in your pockets - so as not to 'fall behind'

Furthermore, given that the vast majority of the resources on the website and that you will be expanding upon are in fact user submitted. You are engaging in exploitation through yielding a benefit through the labour of others. Many people will be offended by this and I suspect that this will be a catalyst for the creation of alternative, more community orientated databases that will be the demise of this website.

You guys aren't worthy of respect.
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The cost of running the site is irrelevant to its users. You already have advertising, what else do you want.
I sense profiteering, and capitalism. You are encouraging a shift to altrernative sources of information.
Foolishness. In the long run, you'd make a hell of a lot more money through advertising, but instead you are going to destroy the sites potential.
You sense profiteering and capitalism, yet you encourage advertising: a tool of profiteers and something that would only be necessary through capitalism.
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Also, how has the site become worse for you in the (almost) month premium memberships have been active?
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Read the second post. It explains why advertising is preferable to direct payment.
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correct. Through allowing for discrimination between paying and non paying members in regards to access to resources, you are in effect giving a further advantage to those students who are from wealthy backgrounds, therefore assisting the propagation and expansion of a class divide, through heightening their probability of HSC success. Thus you create a spiral whereby the standard of achievement is raised, - this is by no means a bad thing, however, stratified access to opportunity is - but what it means is that those who previously wouldn't have seen the need to pay for such access will be pressured into doing so - and putting money in your pockets - so as not to 'fall behind'

Furthermore, given that the vast majority of the resources on the website and that you will be expanding upon are in fact user submitted. You are engaging in exploitation through yielding a benefit through the labour of others. Many people will be offended by this and I suspect that this will be a catalyst for the creation of alternative, more community orientated databases that will be the demise of this website.

You guys aren't worthy of respect.
1) Wealthy? I think someone who can spare 5c/day doesn't exactly have to come from a wealthy background.
2) No one is asking these people to pay
3) You're studying law - I assume you will charge for your services? Richer people can only afford lawyers, whilst poor will have to face charges and jail terms that richer people can evade.
4) No one is pressured to pay. If you don't see yourself benefiting from the services, then you don't pay. It's that simple. Same thing goes for tutoring, study guides, etc. If someone doesn't need these, they don't purchase them.
5) You are advocating your tutoring services. Only the richer people can afford these services (especially at your rates). So you are expanding the gap that you keep mentioning, between rich and poor. Hyporcisy, much? Furthermore you say you're only tutoring for the 'experience'. Then why are you charging such prices?
6) Again, everything else remains the same. Don't pay if you don't feel the need to use these extra services.
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Read the second post. It explains why advertising is preferable to direct payment.
Do you have ad blockers on? We are using advertising on our site, however it does not pay for costs incurred by the administrators.
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1) Wealthy? I think someone who can spare 5c/day doesn't exactly have to come from a wealthy background.
2) No one is asking these people to pay
3) You're studying law - I assume you will charge for your services? Richer people can only afford lawyers, whilst poor will have to face charges and jail terms that richer people can evade.
4) No one is pressured to pay. If you don't see yourself benefiting from the services, then you don't pay. It's that simple. Same thing goes for tutoring, study guides, etc. If someone doesn't need these, they don't purchase them.
5) You are advocating your tutoring services. Only the richer people can afford these services (especially at your rates). So you are expanding the gap that you keep mentioning, between rich and poor.
6) Again, everything else remains the same. Don't pay if you don't feel the need to use these extra services.
Not everyone can afford 5c a day, if you come from a single parent family dependant on welfare. Besides which, the principle is the key: and you are profiteering.

There is implicit pressure, you don't have to ask, you are relying on existing social pressures which you will heighten to essentially force people to subscribe to your service.

The concept itself is immoral. Charging students for access to opportunity. Hopefully the Labor party will come to its senses before too long, and include bannig private schools, etc along with services such as this in their policy agenda.
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