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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily.
    oh and if you have to eat bread, have multigrain, its a complex carb, low gi, so will fill you up for longer and is healther for you etc.
    yeah mum said she was watching this programme on how bad white bread is for you (cos it's so processed and stuff) - not only is it high gi and all the rest of it - but it can lead to other health problems such as thrush... ewwww staying away from white bread now
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    yeah. i only eat muligrain or wholemeal bread... we dont have anyother bread in the house cos parents are health freaks

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    i've been eating wholemeal bread for as long as i can remmeber and white bread just doesn't taste right to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by glycerine
    i don't know... i think i'm a stress eater or something. like honestly, at first something like 5 kilos just fell off in a couple of weeks and since then it's been gradually going down
    :jaw: i wanna be able to do that! haha

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    Right after school finished I lost about 7 kgs in about a month, just cos I wasn't eating... half by choice, half cos I was so stressed about results coming out that I needed to feel in control of something.

    But then the bulemia started up again and I thought 'Nah, not going there again' so I stopped that and got back into eating.

    I've put on a kg since, from drinking. And when you're drinking you tend to eat the worst foods.. for me it's those chicken munchie things, and chips cheese n gravy. Chocolate, chips.. you name it.

    So I'm low-carbing for a while. It works and won't fuck up your metabolism like not eating will do.
    I'm a big fan of low-carbing, you never feel hungry like you do when on the low-fat diets, and you sure as hell don't feel deprived. It's pretty long term too, and the weight comes off nicely.

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    i love white bread and i don't care what anyone says, i refuse to give it up.

    yeah i hate how drinking seems to equal eating like shit eh

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    Yeh that's true, drinking doesn't help. I always crave hot chips or smiths chips at 2am if i've been drinking. bleh. gross.

    Just remember that weighing yourself isn't always accurate. Notice how one day u can be 56 (for eg) and the next day be 58? It's not because you've eaten too much and you've put on 2 kilos of fat. You have to take body fluids into account. You should judge it on your clothes and the way you look. Not necessarily your weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grk_styl
    though today i saw something very interesting. the "light" philadelphia is actually more fattening than "chilly philly", so make sure u look at the saturated fat section at the back of the packets.
    But which has more kj?

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    does such a small thing make so much difference? really...it's only philly, you're not eating a huge meal of it

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    yeah, the things is tho its quite a large amount of calories for such a small insignificant thing, whereas those calories could be used more effectively, eating something thats more filling and with more vitamins etc in it

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    Unhappy

    my diet is going horribly
    why arent i losing weight?
    *cries*

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    Quote Originally Posted by *wbg*
    my diet is going horribly
    why arent i losing weight?
    *cries*
    Diet is only one part of the deal.
    I get my daily paper, look at the obituaries page and if I'm not there I carry on as usual...


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    Up the neg. cal. foods intake. Google "negative calories", I can't be bothered explaining it.

    Make acquaintances with apple cider vinegar. Drink a tablespoon (dilute it with water if you wish) before a big meal. It will suppress your appetite and do amazing things to fat and protein. You could also soak cucumber in apple cider vinegar and eat that before each meal. It tastes good so it also makes a good snack. Go easy on the ACV though, or your stomach will be crying (trust me ).

    I cannot stress the importance of water. Water is great for so many things. It helps to flush out fatty deposits, ice-cold water raises metabolism, and warm water will trick your body into thinking it's full. Drink water CONSTANTLY. You should be aiming for 3 litres/day. If you ever feel bad craving coming on, start drinking glasses and glasses of warm water until the craving goes away. It works, because there's only so much water you can drink until you feel absolutely bloated.

    Cut out all the "fluffy" foods (eg. bread). Bread has got to be the most useless food. For one, it doesn't even taste that great and more importantly, it does NOTHING to fill you up (note: there is 150 calories in a single bread roll). Try eating 2 slices of bread on its own - useless! Instead, eat more DENSE foods.

    Despite what most say, caffeine is a go. It's an appetite suppressant and helps to increase metabolism. It also acts as a diuretic.

    ...and I can't think of any more tips.


    *wbg*, tell me what your diet is like.
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    what is apple cider vinegar exactly? taste any good? and you just get it from the supermarket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *wbg*
    catwalk you're not alone.. im trying to lose weight, but hten again im always trying! im 164cm and my weight fluctuates between 56 and 58kg i'd like to get down to 50kg.. hmm
    i'm in the exact same situation as u and i've been killing myself to get to 50 but my body just won't allow me, hence i've become lazy, stopped exercising and starting to eat more

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    Quote Originally Posted by melimoo
    what is apple cider vinegar exactly? taste any good? and you just get it from the supermarket?
    Quote Originally Posted by taken from a website
    Apple Cider Vinegar has been used for ages and has proven itself safe and effective for helping many health issues. This product is so safe, it can be used for children with weight problems and people with high blood pressure and diabetes! Folks there is no excuse now! Lose the fat that is contributing to your health problems. The vinegar is made from fresh natural apples that contain pectin, a soluble fiber which binds to cholesterol globules and pulls them out of the body. This also helps remove unwanted heavy metals! Less fat and cholesterol in the body reduces the risk of just about any ailment! It works 24 hours a day to help your body remove unwanted fat. There are no side effects. We do recommend that you drink 2-3 glasses of extra water daily to help your body flush this fat out and speed up the weight loss process.
    It doesn't taste terrible, but I can't say it tastes great on it's own. Cucumbers soaked in ACV tastes good though.

    Yes, either buy it from the supermarket or health food stores.



    In spite of all that, I don't think anyone should depend on ACV to get rid of fat. That website has exaggerated ACV's ability to remove fat. ACV helps to remove fat from the food you've just eaten but I don't believe it can remove "unwanted fat" from your body. If that were the case, we'd all be trim.

    I also don't think it's healthy to eat a fatty meal and rely on ACV to reverse your bad deed for you. Instead, it'd be much better to eat healthy meals and use ACV merely as an aid to remove unwanted fats from the meal.

    I'm warning you now, don't be greedy and have too much at once. Your stomach will be begging for mercy...
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    Always: pretty much my diet goes (it changed after i found out that bread and avocardo were no nos )

    brek: fruit and/or a piece of toast
    lunch: salad (i was having avocardo sandwiches but yeah)
    dinner: half portion of white meat and veggies with a small portion of rice

    sometimes a snack of fruit/ raw broccoli/ carrots etc.

    also drink coffee and water steadily through the day (i know coffee is not brilliant for your health but im a coffee addict... mmm coffeee )

    see, i think that sounds okay.. doing bout 20mins of exercise too... but im not losing weight!

    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by *wbg*
    brek: fruit and/or a piece of toast
    Poor carbohydrate source and no protein! Very poor breakfast. Breakfast is of significant importance as you have fasted through sleep and you are in a catabolic state. Catabolism means you need PROTEIN.
    A better breakfast would be something like porridge and eggs.


    lunch: salad (i was having avocardo sandwiches but yeah)
    What is in the salad? How many calories is it? What is the macro breakdown of the meal (i.e. protein/carbs/fat)?


    dinner: half portion of white meat and veggies with a small portion of rice
    Quite good. What vegetables and what kind of rice though?


    also drink coffee and water steadily through the day (i know coffee is not brilliant for your health but im a coffee addict... mmm coffeee )
    Some suggest that caffeine is good when attempting to lose weight. Personally, I would avoid it. One of the most important reasons for this is its diuretic effect, which contributes to dehydration. This is extremely important for me as I have to drink 5+L of water to ensure hydration, especially since I am supplementing with creatine. If I was you, I would do some research of caffeine and then make an informed decision about whether you want to continue drinking it - depending on your circumstances/goals etc.

    see, i think that sounds okay
    No! It is far from okay!


    doing bout 20mins of exercise too... but im not losing weight!
    Cardio should be done for longer duration at a lesser intensity when aiming for fat loss. Up it to about 45 mins. Also, start doing resistance training - this will be of much benefit and mean that not only are you losing fat, but building muscle = shape and tone.


    Another problem is that you are only having 3 meals. I recommend 6.
    Also, for your diet to be successful you need to be eating the right amount of calories and your macronutrient ratio needs to be in accord with your goals. This is where it can get slightly complicated, but if you are willing, I can provide some assistance.

    Goodluck.
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    Judging from your diet, *wbg*, you should definitely be losing weight. This leads me to believe that you're currently in a weight loss plateau. Your body is resisting further weight loss because you've pushed it too far. If you want me to explain this further, just ask.

    I think you should increase the amount of calories you consume, but through low-cal foods. This is where negative calorie foods come in (google it - mainly veggies & fruit). Eating these foods will get your body out of starvation mode and kickstart your metabolism again. I can't be bothered explaining the concept - just eat lots of fruit and veggies!!

    hYperTrOphY, I think porridge is a poor breakfast choice. No one eats porridge plain (it tastes horrid), and all the condiments added to enhance the taste makes it very high-cal. I think cereal (Special K) and a piece of fruit (banana) is a good choice. It will keep you full for a long time and it's also low-cal and healthy.

    While caffeine has a diuretic effect, it is also an appetite suppressant and it helps to increase metabolism. The girl said she's drinking water!, so there is little chance of dehydration. *wbg*, if you are adding sugar or milk to your coffee, I suggest you should either stop or switch to green tea.

    I'll give you a brief diet suggestion:

    Breakfast: Special K with low-fat or skim milk, 1 banana. (you drink a glass of water first thing every morning though)

    Morning tea: fruit salad or 2 pieces of fruit (no banana!)

    Lunch: tuna salad (you need the protein) OR if you hate tuna, substitute it with chicken. You really must include some source of protein. Include LOTS of veggies in the salad.

    Afternoon snack: Nestle Diet yoghurt, because I'm concerned about your calcium intake. You're still young and you're a woman. Don't skimp on calcium. (Nestle Diet yoghurt is only 90 cals anyway)

    Dinner: I know it's hard to control what you eat for dinner because you (I'm assuming) don't do the cooking. This is why I suggest you take a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar before dinner.

    Throughout the day: water water water!! I think 5+ litres is excessive. You don't want to walk around with a bloated stomach. 3 litres is plenty.

    This diet is much more substantial than the one you're currently on. You're starving yourself and as a result, your body is clinging on to every bit of fat.

    Re: exercise, do it first thing in the morning. If you exercise any other time you will just be burning off calories, not fat. Exercising in the morning will also raise your metabolism for the rest of the day.
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    The easiest way to lose weight is to travel. Its also fun and fulfilling. I went to Malaysia and India after the HSC (just got back) and I've lost about 3-4 kilos...

    my mum says I'm kool...

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    Seems to me that in order to sustain the healthy diets you people are talking about you need to not have a job nor a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Bushra_
    The easiest way to lose weight is to travel. Its also fun and fulfilling. I went to Malaysia and India after the HSC (just got back) and I've lost about 3-4 kilos...
    :/

    see your doctor immediately, you've obviously caught something

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    dont be unrealistic- eat a diet which you will be able to stick to forever.
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    can i ask what the verdict on nuts and dried fruit (mainly sultanas) is. i try to only eat raw nuts and sultanas, and i used to eat them as snacks everyday. i used to eat nuts because theyre a good source of protein (??? are they?) and i don't get much in my diet. and sultanas were just nice. however are nuts fatty? and arent sultanas really sugary? i know that sunbeam ones have oil on them as well to stop them sticking and to make them look nicer. but what im essentially asking is what are good snacks apart from vegies?
    and also, always, you seem to know about metabolisms and shit. what will send mine out of whack?im just afraid that it'll go crazy and i'll have none and then my head will explode

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    hYperTrOphY, I think porridge is a poor breakfast choice. No one eats porridge plain (it tastes horrid), and all the condiments added to enhance the taste makes it very high-cal.
    I have 2 large bowls per day, everyday, and I don't add anything to it. You get used to it after a little while. Alternatively, you could add splenda to it.
    While caffeine has a diuretic effect, it is also an appetite suppressant and it helps to increase metabolism. The girl said she's drinking water!, so there is little chance of dehydration.
    There are other negative effects of caffeine other than its diuretic effect (e.g. increased blood pressure). Staying full can also be achieved by eating the right kinds of foods. As I said in my post though, it is up to her to make the decision.
    Throughout the day: water water water!! I think 5+ litres is excessive. You don't want to walk around with a bloated stomach. 3 litres is plenty.
    I didn't suggest she have 5+ litres. I said that is what I have (and stated the reasons).
    Re: exercise, do it first thing in the morning. If you exercise any other time you will just be burning off calories, not fat. Exercising in the morning will also raise your metabolism for the rest of the day.
    I hope you're not suggesting she do exercise after not eating for 8 hrs?
    If you exercise properly - that is, at a VO2 max of about 65% for 45 minutes you will predominately metabolise fat for energy.

    EDIT: Cardio metabolizes calories and fat. The difference is substrate utilization. During an aneorobic activity lets say you metabolize 400 calories, and during an aeorobic activity, you metabolize 400, as well. The question is, what substrates do you use--carbs, fats, or proteins? This depends on the intensity and diet. The goal is, you want to use fat as your dominant substrate. Well, the higher your intensity is, the more carbohydrates you will use; the lower your intensity is, the more fat you will use.
    Seems to me that in order to sustain the healthy diets you people are talking about you need to not have a job nor a life.
    How does changing your eating habits equate to having no life?
    For me, it affects all aspects of my life, however for most it will not be this intense.
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    hYperTrOphY, I think porridge is a poor breakfast choice. No one eats porridge plain (it tastes horrid), and all the condiments added to enhance the taste makes it very high-cal.
    Porridge is the healthiest breakfast choice you can possibly make, as long as you don't add a heap of full cream milk and sugar to it.
    You can add fruit, low fat yoghurt, honey, nuts...it will have a decent amount of calories in it still but not that many. And it will last you a good 5 hours at least.
    Personally, I don't actually like it wil milk or anything in it. I think it tastes a lot better plain made on water.
    Quote Originally Posted by melimoo
    can i ask what the verdict on nuts and dried fruit (mainly sultanas) is. i try to only eat raw nuts and sultanas, and i used to eat them as snacks everyday. i used to eat nuts because theyre a good source of protein (??? are they?) and i don't get much in my diet. and sultanas were just nice. however are nuts fatty? and arent sultanas really sugary? i know that sunbeam ones have oil on them as well to stop them sticking and to make them look nicer. but what im essentially asking is what are good snacks apart from vegies?
    and also, always, you seem to know about metabolisms and shit. what will send mine out of whack?im just afraid that it'll go crazy and i'll have none and then my head will explode
    They are both great, healthy snacks but are both reasonably high in kj.
    Nuts are good to use in a diet to help fill you up and give you good fats, but about 5 almonds a day will do this.
    You are much better off having fresh fruit than dried kj wise - a bunch of grapes will fill you up a lot more than a handful of sultanas.
    Other goods snacks would be toast with a scrape of vegemite, water crackers with low fat hummus and dips, raw veggies, fresh fruit, low fat yoghurt and milk, baked beans..
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