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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    Quote Originally Posted by woodentoy
    I know this was like, two years ago, but it's still relevant. I was leaning towards finding related material that dealt with history and memory in regards to subjects other than the Holocaust (since history & memory is the broader topic and Baker's text is an outreach of that), but my English teacher pretty much said you have to do it on the Holocaust. From anyone's experience, do markers care which way you go? Now that I've found my Holocaust stuff I don't particularly want to revert.
    I was told specifically NOT to have related texts that were about the holocaust. It is easier to find connections which might be why your teacher told you to but it means you are focusing too much on the historical event rather than how history and memory are portrayed in a text. You'll get a better grade if you are able to analyse texts that have different (but complementary) themes. Try to pick a broader theme than the holocaust, like struggles or hardship .

    Also, Life is Beautiful would be a good text but like someone said before it is a set text for another one of the other modules and its not that the examiner will get confused, its that they will think you are lazy and are just re-using one of your old set-texts. I wanted to do Wild Swans and I can't because its on the list of set texts :mad1:

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    I was definitely not told anything regarding whether our related texts were meant to be related to the core text we are studying, and I'm studying The Fiftieth Gate, so I've just been looking around for texts about the Holocaust.

    But is it actually okay to use the Sydney Jewish Museum? What medium do you call it? It's a visual medium all right, but it isn't a film or anything. Please help me!!

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    For 50th Gate, the film "Everything Is Illuminated" (2005) is gold.
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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    Hey! I know it's a bit late... but for those doing history and memory - the fiftieth gate espcially, this webiste could be of some help

    http://www.harpercollins.com.au/glob...32258049&tc=rg

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    [LEFT]i am doing the 50th gate
    is it better to use text related to the holocaust for history and memory for ur complementary texts or to have 3 varied texts related to history and memory? i no this is optional but which would a teacher geneally prefer.

    if ur central text is the 50th gate could u use ned kelly and memenot for ur complimentart texts?

    and what are some very good suggestions for complementary texts texts which are not novels e.g. poster, poem, song etc

    and last question which is abit of the topic lol, for hsc english exams what are all the sorts of questions u can be asked to anwser in a english exam for the last section e.g recount, interviews, dialogues, narrative etc

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    Elie Wiesel's speech "Listen to the silent screams" -full of techniques
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    the film Momento

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    'The Pianist' (2003) directed by Roman Polanski. It's really good & relates really well to 'The Fiftieth Gate'. Polanski's life experiences also help with history & memory.

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    anyone think of schindler's list by Steven Spielberg?
    captures one of the scenes from the text Fiftieth Gate beautifully, when they enter the showers.

    im doing that and a hollocaust survivor recount.

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    Hey I was wondering where I could find notes on memento. I went poorly in my history and memory essay and have been searching everywhere for some help. thank you :]

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    HELP!!!!
    schindlers list quotes/concepts. I DONT GET IT!
    trial tomorrow at 9am
    using it for history & memory with the fiftieth gate, aftermath by rosylyn someone and don mcleans american pie.

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    hey i was wondering if i could use Tim Burton's 'big fish' for history and memory? because im doing The Fiftieth Gate and it can relate really well-as in finding the truth in memory, how memory and fact support each other, the son and his father retelling his life story....except apprently its a text used for imaginative journeys? ahh. help.

    and the only other realted text i can suggest is the doco, "the mascot" or the film, "everything is illuminated" this would work really well with the Fiftieth gate because they can easily relate.

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    we using a compass documentary "claiming the memory". Its about a group of 3rd generation australian jewish students who travel to Poland to comemorate he march of the living. very good text to use. Others we used were the diary of anne frank, the children we remember. we used life is beautiful in year 11 but were told not 2 use it as its on the journeys list or something

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    hey guys im using 50th gate plus schinlders list. im also using we will never forgt-auschwitz the poem however having trouble analysiign it properly. if anyone who did it could pm me with a bit of help on what part of the poem i should look at closely that would be great.

    cheers guys, and good luck to anyone doing 2008 hsc.

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    I'm in year 11 and I'll be doing The 50th Gate next year. But someone mentioned Elie Weisel. He wrote a book called "Night". Which is a Holocaust memoir. It is not a large novel, it is relatively thin, but I hope it could be of use to alot of you! It would be a great text to use and regardless is a great book!

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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmarr
    anyone think of schindler's list by Steven Spielberg?
    Everyone thinks of Schindler's List by Steven Spielberg.

    Some alternatives for film:
    Shoah - Claud Lanzmann - was going to use it, but I can only get the first dvd.
    A Very Long Engagement - Jean-Pierre Jeunet
    Good Bye, Lenin! (one I'm using, very good) - Wolfgang Becker
    As someone else said, Big Fish - Tim Burton. relates well to Genia.
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    Re: History & Memory - Related Texts

    I'm currently doing History and Memory and the text we are using is "True History of the Kelly Gang" by Peter Carey. Any suggested H&M additional texts for that one?

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    our school is doing the true hisory of the kelly gang as well and our teacher told us to use other texts regarding ned Kelly for related texts like the sidney nolan paintings etc.. does anyone know any good quotes from the true history of the kelly gang?

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    I'm using Maus (comic book) and the Spielberg documentary, Survivors of the Holocaust.

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    Can we have one of these for the module 'Conflicting Perspectives' please? They seem to get a lot more attention if there's an "important" notice stickying it to the top.
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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    We're studying the 50th gate. our whole class is finding it incredibly hard to find related texts and our teacher's absolutely no help. I don't want to do one relating to the Holocaust though...
    I would do Big Fish but I thought it had to be someone looking back over an historical event?? This module sucks =.=

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

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    Hey,
    I'm doing this topic currently and just went searching for some related texts. My teacher suggested that a text qualifies if you can find 'historical' references for the texts that you choose and you can discuss the differences between the history behind the story, and the way the creation shows the story, then it can be used. For example - i am looking at the possibilities of using either Hotel Rwanda, Munich, Catch a Fire or The Colour of Freedom.

    Hope that helps

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    Quote Originally Posted by ObsequiousGirl2 View Post
    Hey,
    I'm doing this topic currently and just went searching for some related texts. My teacher suggested that a text qualifies if you can find 'historical' references for the texts that you choose and you can discuss the differences between the history behind the story, and the way the creation shows the story, then it can be used. For example - i am looking at the possibilities of using either Hotel Rwanda, Munich, Catch a Fire or The Colour of Freedom.

    Hope that helps

    do we know if the related texts have to actually be of someone's memory/looking back (fictional or non-fictional) as well as the historical references? that's what our class was told, for the memory element, but it's awfully hard to find one that fits both...

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    Quote Originally Posted by nwatts View Post
    Akira Kurosawa's 'Rashomon'.

    I strongly advise you look for this film and watch it. I don't do History & Memory, but I have the feeling it'd be perfect.
    this is the perfect related for conflicting perspective...but not so much H &M

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    Re: History & Memory: Related Texts

    I'm doing representation of History and Memory and the book we are doing is The Fiftieth Gate by Mark Baker. My teacher said that its a good idea to choose another holocaust text as well as a text with a different context and representation of history and memory. I was wondering if The Manchurian Candidate would be good for this?

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