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Old 20 Dec 2008, 7:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

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Old 20 Dec 2008, 7:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

Essentially because students doing them get lower marks in the exams than other subjects.
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Old 20 Dec 2008, 7:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

They have stronger cohorts...obviously
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

So people who do social sciences get punished because science people can't achieve decent marks?
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

Scaling of the subject is determiend by the overall calibre of the candidature in the course.

In general, subjects like 4 Unit Mathematics, 3 Unit Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry attract many of those high-calibre students.
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

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Essentially because students doing them get lower marks in the exams than other subjects.
Not really. It's cos the cohorts for them perform better. 'dumber' people take humanities, while 'smarter' people take sciences and maths. of course the terms are vague and stupid.
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

It's essentially stereotyping, right? Science and maths = smart people.
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It's essentially stereotyping, right? Science and maths = smart people.
no, the stats actually say that people who do sciences and maths actually do better

but i tihnk in general, it's maths > languages > sciences > humanities
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

It should be easier for them to get marks though. They don't have to write essays or anything. I don't understand why science is held in so much prestige.
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

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It's essentially stereotyping, right? Science and maths = smart people.
you mixed up cause and effect, but essentially that's the gist of it
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It's essentially stereotyping, right? Science and maths = smart people.
Nope. It's not really stereotyping and I didn't mean that.

Other subjects like Ancient History DO attract many high-calibre students but not as many as, say, Chemistry does.

I guess many high-calibre students do it because it is an assumed knowledge for so many university courses that usually require high UAI as well.

Same story with Mathematics. You sometimes need 4 Unit or 3 Unit Mathematics to pursue a highly scientific university degree (note the word "sometimes").
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It should be easier for them to get marks though. They don't have to write essays or anything. I don't understand why science is held in so much prestige.
Lol. Now you are coming up with a stereotype.

No, Sciences are NOT harder because at least you cannot make "bullshit" on your exams like in subjects like Ancient History.
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

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Not really. It's cos the cohorts for them perform better. 'dumber' people take humanities, while 'smarter' people take sciences and maths. of course the terms are vague and stupid.
It is also because of that. BUT if the smarter cohort recevie the same marks in say 4U Maths and Bus Studies, then 4U maths will scale the same as Bus Studies. What actually happens is that the cohort receives a lower mark in 4U Maths than they do in Bus Studies, leading to the higher scaling.
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

So, just say. I do well in English Advanced and Economics (subjects which are done by some science people). I beat them in these subjects. Yet cause they do sciences they get a higher UAI. I don't get that. (I still did crap, I admit that.)
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Re: Why are sciences and mathematics scaled so well?

You only contribute to a very small part of those cohorts. The overall English or Economics cohort is not as strong as say the 4U Maths cohort.
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