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Old 3 Nov 2009, 6:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd just like to extend a big ol' FUCK YOU to Albert Speer. You single handedly ruined my Modern paper.

How'd your personalities treat you? I was thrown by "products of their times" and blanked on key dates. Shit. I should have studied more of it and spent less time on everything else.
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Old 3 Nov 2009, 6:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I did Speer too. I basically said he was an opportunitist who grasped opportunities provided in that specific time. His career was basically divided into 4 parts:
- Joining the new political wave that was the Nazis
- Architectural jobs in the party during peace time
- Armaments Minister during the outbreak of the war
- His image as the "good Nazi" after the German defeat
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I did Trotsky and probably approached it in a strange way as usual.

I basically said that because he came into power during a time when the idea of "Permanent Revolution" was popular and he believed in it, he could not abandon the idea because it had served him well for such a long time despite it ultimately leading to his defeat in the power struggle.

Of course i used examples to show how he whole heartedly supported the idea/used it as motivation and used historians to back everything up
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Old 3 Nov 2009, 6:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Personalities....

I did J. Edgar Hoover. I think the quote suited him!
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I went on about how Speer was a product of 2 distinct times. Nationalist racist Germany (Van Der Vat stuff) and the new Germany developing during the 1920's and after WW2 ("Apolitical managerial revolution stuff").
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Re: Personalities....

Leni Riefenstahl.
Didn't manage my time well for this section so if I don't get the overall mark I hoped for then I shall blame Leni. I mean I understood what the question was asking for and all but... well.. yeah timing I suppose. Timing and Leni Riefenstahl. Both were just absolutely horrible.
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Riefenstahl was beautiful...

-Dancing reflected contexts of more culturally open weimar republic
-early film work (pre-nazis) did this too
-Nazi films obviously reflected her 'being a product of her time'
-Nuba photography showed she hadn't changed, was still influenced by the contexts of her younger life
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Old 3 Nov 2009, 9:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Riefenstahl was beautiful...

-Dancing reflected contexts of more culturally open weimar republic
-early film work (pre-nazis) did this too
-Nazi films obviously reflected her 'being a product of her time'
-Nuba photography showed she hadn't changed, was still influenced by the contexts of her younger life
-Same point
-Nazi's changed her as her context changed being less free and more restricted in hitlers totalitarian regime (ie same fate as rest of Germany)

How historians argue over her transition from art -> propaganda/art

Leni's insistance that she only did art (said therefore that she was blind to her changing time period)

-Nuba photography was like the continuation of her controversial life in a world where options were more available (Approaching post modernism meant Leni was much less restricted)

-continued with her diving career... till she was 101 years old...

O yeah hell yeah
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I screwed up so badly because of him. He was time-consuming and what the hell was the last question? I just had a giant mental blank of Speer.
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i did Speer as well. absolute crap imo.
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god speer was horrible.

i made some weird, tenuous shit up about him being "a belated product of his time". something to do with how he manipulated people after the fall of nazi germany... or something.
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I did Gorby and basically interpreted 'times' to mean many times to which I connected his decisions and what he said in media to be a product of his experiences.

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I did Trotsky and basically manipulated the "times" to mean when he grew up and such, as heaps of people are always bleating about how his childhood had no revolutionary indicators - which it did, if you could be bothered to read his autobiography.
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I did Speer but it was set out really badly so that it didn't follow a good structure due to to much time spent on part a.
Basically i agreed with the quote and then said that he was anti semetic, but he just followed the trend in Germany. This may be seen through his Nazi membership and his general indifference to the Jews, both demonstrating that he was a product of his times. Then I spoke about how Speer defyed the Scorched Earth as a response to the end of the war, rather than a personal mission to save Germany, this shows how he was a pragmatic opportunist and a product of his time.

In alot of ways it was similar to the 2007 paper "events shape people more than people shape events"
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I did Speer but it was set out really badly so that it didn't follow a good structure due to to much time spent on part a.
Basically i agreed with the quote and then said that he was anti semetic, but he just followed the trend in Germany. This may be seen through his Nazi membership and his general indifference to the Jews, both demonstrating that he was a product of his times. Then I spoke about how Speer defyed the Scorched Earth as a response to the end of the war, rather than a personal mission to save Germany, this shows how he was a pragmatic opportunist and a product of his time.

In alot of ways it was similar to the 2007 paper "events shape people more than people shape events"
I pretty much did the same as you.

Speer was a combination of both his time as in the events in Germany and the society he lived in and his inherent nature which I supported with Gitta Sereney's quote he had a "missing dimnesion of human feeling and compassion".
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