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Old 23 Apr 2006, 12:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks heaps guys for the advice
I was also talking to my teacher about it b4 holidays
and he said the thing that will separate the marks would be the people who are in 'control' of the discussion

can you help me clarify this??
im confused between clarity, confidence and depth
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control is a matter of fully knowing what you're saying and prompting certain questions to which you know are coming and you have the answer... control is about confidence too - the ability to communicate without hestitation or second thoughts and the delivery. depth is the amount of detail and the thought put into a certain issue that characterises its 'sophistication'. clarity is when you express yourself in a lucid, clear manner so as not to be ambiguous or to prompt further clarification questions. having clarity will help you be in control of the direction of the viva voce.
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HAHAH thanks I knoe what they mean
what i meant is in the context of the 'viva voce', what is meant by this control?
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HAHAH thanks I knoe what they mean
what i meant is in the context of the 'viva voce', what is meant by this control?
It means quite simply(at least IMO) that they want you to clearly lead the discussion, they want a presentation as opposed to them interrogating you. For example you would initiate a discussion of how your work is suited to an audience rather than the teachers having to ask you questions on each and every single point.
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HAHAH thanks I knoe what they mean
what i meant is in the context of the 'viva voce', what is meant by this control?
This being said, you have to remember that you can't just go in there and bully them into asking specific questions - remain respectful, they're still higher on the food chain than you are!

(Remember that each school runs differently... my teachers asked a number of pre-prepared questions that came totally out of the blue in my viva, whereas others might pose them on the spot)

Think of it like a celebrity interview. The interviewer doesn't want a one-sentence answer. They tend to ask open-ended questions which require far more than a simple answer - this is your opportunity to answer the question intelligently and eloquently.

NB: Don't feel pressured to use "fancy language" - it frequently trips people up in essays when they use it out of context, and you can just imagine the real life stats. You will probably have to know the names of particular concepts/techniques used in your MW (duh, lol) but don't feel like you need to be best friends with a thesaurus in order to get full marks.
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wow - i didn't realise how much it would vary from school to school... i feel lucky. Ours only go for 5minutes, and we aren't to prepare a speech, we are just suppose to have a conversation with three teachers. If they ask us questions, it is actually a bad thing, because it means they are trying to prompt us to say something that we should have covered ourselves. but then again, we have like 90 kids doing ext.2(and i'm first!!!!!), so maybe they just want to get them done quickly
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Re: Assessment: Viva Voce

Thanks guys,
My Viva Voce is next Tuesday (eek! Only a week)

My teacher today mentioned that you have to somehow relate the inspirtaion/ your major work to studies done in English Advanced or Extension 1.. is this true? On the sheet I was given it was not specified.

I guess I will have to ask her...

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yeah of course you will have to whether or not it is specified
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I really don't know why it has to be related back to the course, but nevertheless it does (easier to assess I suppose). The teacher will probably want to know how you've 'expanded' upon the ideas you have examined during your coursework rather than just how they relate. It can be pretty confusing at times to know what to say. Well if your Ext. 1 topic is a crime fiction and your writing a detective story it shouldn't be too hard, especially if there's a journey involved too. Just take your story and hammer it into the mould of your course, in more eloquent language of course.
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yup; after all english EXTENSION is an extension (in a very literal sense) of the english coursework. there are many strands which can be linked; if you did critical theories in yr 11 (psychoanalyst, structuralist etc) you could say that your work is a result of this or that theory, etc. Also, you could make passing reference (en passant) to your advanced coursework - if there is a journey involved, if there is a powerstructure (powerplay) or etc.
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Re: Assessment: Viva Voce

90 people doing extension 2 in the one school is freakin ridiculous.

We just had our Vivas and they went for about 30 minutes each, we had to show/read a short excerpt from our video/written MW and then answer a series of questions on the draft specifically and then our MW in general.
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