Reply With Quotewandering around, lost in the wilderness.
why?
i dont know
Was brought up in a relatively Christian household.
Stopped going to church because of people who really do not practice what they preach. I hear this all too often.
Went crazy for a while, re-discovering/exploring my faith atm.
If i have learnt one thing, it's that everything takes time.
Even though im a very 'now' person.
wandering around, lost in the wilderness.
why?
i dont know
i leive in Islam yes...i don't eat pork and i beleive in Allah
BUT i'm religious. i don't wear a head-scrf, i beleive in morals of religion, which because they are the same as the other major religions, i respect them too...
and plz if ur gonna comment on it don't...we dnt need anymore discrimination because i used 2 words in this post coz if u ment u wudn't even know it
You'll never see the moments coming that will forever mutilate your life- at least until after they've mowed you down
discrimination is unfair treatment of groups or individuals due to prejudiceOriginally Posted by SiN3m
commenting on a set of ideas you believe isn't unfair or prejudiced
shit thread
oy, ur wrong
why?
what do your parents think about you being homosexual?
oh daym. so you still have to go to mosque ?
yeh it's good you have at least have someone whom you can be yourself with.
To atheists.
If you deny God's existence, then how do you explain the perfection of nature? Could it possibly be just coincidence? I don't think so!
How is it that matter came from no matter when the Big Bang occurred, and time came from no time?
Think rationally, and you'll soon realise the reality of God's existence.
be in this life as though you are a stranger or traveller
Yeah, we don't know how these things happened for sure, but at least we go to an effort to work it out rather than making up bullshit stories to "explain" it.
A question I've always wanted to ask: a lot of Christians espouse the view that if you don't follow God, you go to hell. Right? Well what about the people who lived in the time before Christ? What about the people in ancient caveman times? Christianity wasn't even around then. (and the fact that it hasn't always been around is partly why I call bullshit on the whole religion thing.)
Ten thousand dollars at the drop of a hat, I'd give it all gladly, if our lives could be like that.
Come back when you finish primary school, kid.
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I think you quite misunderstood me there Mr. Stevo.
My intention is not to attack your personal beliefs, rather to give you a rational insight to explain the purpose of life, and the reason why it is impossible for nature to have created itself; all creation must have a Creator, just as all actions must have a doer.
So please do not be so sardonic next time - that will be kindly appreciated.
be in this life as though you are a stranger or traveller
I get what you're trying to say but I don't agree and I don't think you've really explained yourself very well. You're making assumptions e.g. "all creation must have a creator". That's only true if you accept that everything in nature was created as opposed to, you know, just happening because of chemical reactions causing life to form that evolved into other forms and etc. So what you need to prove first is that the universe was "created"; only then can your "rational" assumption about a Creator be justified.
Ten thousand dollars at the drop of a hat, I'd give it all gladly, if our lives could be like that.
If you accept God's existence, how do you explain the perfection of nature? God did it just isn't an answer any more than 'nature did it'.If you deny God's existence, then how do you explain the perfection of nature?
How is it that God came from No God when God occurred? My guess is you'll say God has always existed, well I can quite easily posit that the universe has always existed (obviously background radiation observations disprove this for our known universe) but it's quite possible that something 'beyond' that could just as easily have always existed as much as any God.How is it that matter came from no matter when the Big Bang occurred, and time came from no time?
I have a question for you:
Let's say that the best answer for where everything came from is that it came about 'magically' by some sort of creative force, what's to say that this is an intelligent god or in particular the interventionist personal god that you believe in?
Last edited by Enteebee; 26 May 2008 at 9:44 PM.
Re: Religious affiliation
As for you, Cosmic Doris, I do agree with your first statement; that we should use our logic and intellect to explain things; absolutely correct!
Yet on the other hand, I never mentioned that I am a Christian, yet I do believe that the wrongdoers ultimately go to Hell.
Now, I ask you to be open-minded and thoughtful about what I'm just about to say...
Put it this way; if a righteous man gets killed, and the killer later on dies without facing charges in this life, is it fair that there is no judgement after that?
If there was no Resurrection Day as you confess, then why on Earth should anyone bother about living a 'peaceful, harmonious and productive' life?
Wouldn't we better off just going haywire, following our lusts and whims?
But no, justice is justice, logic is logic, and so life is actually a limited time-span for us to do good, and avoid the wrong...and accordingly, God will retribute us with unprecedented rewards: PARADISE for ETERNITY!
It is time for us to put aside our materialist beliefs that the universe is matter and only matter (OK...then where did the matter originate from?).
May God guide you to the Truth, and to an awareness of the reason for us being on Earth, living short lives that tick away every second...down to our death. (This IS the truth; everyone is going to die).
Last edited by PoisedTiger007; 26 May 2008 at 9:47 PM.
be in this life as though you are a stranger or traveller
i totally agree
We do follow our lusts and whims, they lead us often to live 'peaceful, harmonious and productive lives', such a life is after all something that people desire... right?
Where did God originate from? Where-ever u say I'm going to say that's where the matter came from... If God just always existed in some realm beyond our understanding, why couldn't matter?It is time for us to put aside our materialist beliefs that the universe is matter and only matter (OK...then where did the matter originate from?).
k, but you didn't answer the rest of my question
A lot of things aren't fair. That doesn't mean there must necessarily be a way to make them so.
Also, I understand your point about Resurrection Day, but the only people who live their lives in anticipation of that day are Christians, so when it comes to the rest of us it's a bit of a dud point. We behave (for the most part) like decent people because if we all went around stabbing whoever the hell we felt like, we'd die out pretty quickly. And extinction is not something on the agenda of any self respecting species. Sure, our moral codes, in the Western world at least, may be based on biblical precedents in parts but that doesn't mean that we're all walking around checking everything we do against what God says. Does that make any sense, I cbb going into great depth about it.
Ten thousand dollars at the drop of a hat, I'd give it all gladly, if our lives could be like that.
I find it pretty scary that he thinks without a God to judge us we'd go on murderous rampages (more than we already do lol).
lol, 40% practise chritianity, and 12% practice islam.
these results are screwed up. define practice?
i doupt all the Christians go to church every sunday, and doupt all the muslims pray 5 times a day.
last time i prayed was on eid. (shamefully speaking)
results are flawed.
definition of "practice" is debatable.
97% of those who have participated in this poll are christian/muslim/hindu etc simply because they were born into it.
simply put it this way if those who really practice those religions to its true nature, we would have many many more religious fundamentalist within our society.
Last edited by bigboyjames; 26 May 2008 at 10:20 PM.
i also never understood why christians where the chross around their necks. when jesus comes do you really think he wants to see a cross? i think its abit insulting.
Well... according to most christian theologians god wanted the crucifixion to happen so that people could be freed from sin..
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